Racism is never a joke…Phil Anselmo, you straight fucking played yourself in the eyes of so many, and CVLT Nation will never support you in any way or form.
I have been an active part of the underground music community since the early 80s, and I have never made the color of my skin an issue until today. In the 35 years that I’ve been going to shows, playing in bands and collecting and appreciating punk and metal music, I have seen musicians and fans of all colors, cultures and genders. When Meghan and I started CVLT Nation, we decided that at its foundation we would ignore all music with a racist and sexist agenda. We weren’t going to get on a soapbox about it, it just wasn’t going to make it on the pages of this webzine. We would get angry in private, and publicly we would erase racism in metal from existence.
But we’re not going to lie about the music and cultures we admire. We post about hip hop, we post about Nina Simone and black biker gangs, and when we can’t stop ourselves we post about police brutality in the black community. And every.single.time. we have to deal with some maggotty racist scum bubbling up to the surface to tell us to stop with our “black propaganda” or to tell us how superior the white race is. We just delete, delete, delete. And move on. Because of two things: 1. Anyone who espouses the belief that the 0.01% of their DNA that determines their external appearance makes them genetically superior to another human being is a fucking fool and astoundingly ignorant; and 2. Because these ignorant cretins could never convince us that we should not listen to this music, love and support this music and above all lose our self-respect and love for each other and our family and friends because of something so insignificant as race. In the past, we’ve been told that if we don’t condone racist ideologies in metal, then we shouldn’t be running this site, because extreme music holds extreme views. In our opinion, racism is not “extreme,” it’s ignorant, dumb and worthless. So to those people, we say “fuck you” and move on.
For anyone who doesn’t already know: CVLT Nation is run by an interracial couple with three awesome biracial kids that we love with all of our hearts. Our 4.5 year old and 2 year old daughters have more metal running through their veins than most of our readers. I doubt even Phil Anselmo can claim that as an infant his favorite music was fast and heavy. When I heard Phil say “White Power,” it hit home, because it meant not only he does not think I should be a part of this community that I’ve dedicated my life to, but also that my children should not exist and I should not be married to my best friend. I know that we have some readers that might agree with his statements, or be apologetic for them, and to those people I say this: it’s your right to read our site, and thanks for the hits and for helping us feed our family, but just know that this site is run by the people you think you HATE, and by people who you think have no right to have a say about this music and this community.
It’s time for us all to take a stand against feeble-minded people like Phil Anselmo and all who think that what he was saying was a joke!
If calling Anselmo out for holding beliefs that show zero respect for us and our family and friends – including musicians whose talent makes Anslemo look like he’s got his thumbs up his ass – makes us Social Justice Warriors, then so be it. I would would rather be that then a racist piece of shit who has ass-backward views and can’t think for themselves. I have family members who were raped and lynched, but even if I didn’t, I couldn’t be silent about this, because if I don’t speak up I might as well be down with Phil. Honestly, I find it ironic that Phil makes money off of reworking blues riffs, but hates the people who created them. It doesn’t get much more ignorant than that.
Much respect to everyone online and in the real world who are brave enough to speak out against racism in Metal. Phil Anselmo’s idiotic actions may have inspired this discussion, but we have to acknowledge that this problem runs deeper than just one person in the industry, and should be addressed more often. To all of our racist, sexist, xenophobic or homophobic readers out there in cyberspace: please unlike us, because we don’t fucking like you! While you hate, we CREATE!
Nathan
April 6, 2016 at 5:44 am
I support you in everything you have said in this article. I will probably never listen to a Phil Anselmo album again. However, I do have an issue with why you speak up about his. I have read articles on this site were you support artists who have said or sung about much worse… such as supporting child prostitution and pedophilia. Why turn a blind eye to these issues and speak out about racism. Which is worse?
mtchknght
April 5, 2016 at 6:55 pm
Colin Charles…. Pretty much all this article is saying is that being a racist prick isn’t ok. Why do you find that so disagreeable. Go back to /pol/
gytr
March 23, 2016 at 6:43 pm
https://youtu.be/uOhmlET_tj8
Colin Charles
February 3, 2016 at 10:08 am
-209 for my previous comment = 209 beta vaginas who have no place listening to metal due to the fact that they must have everything in life censored so that their fragile feelings don’t get hurt. This is thrash we are dealing with though, and thrashtards have always been the emasculated crybabies of heavy metal.
PC is censorship, and censorship is most certainly not Kvlt (Cvltnation got it wrong). So if you cuckboys want to whine because something hurt your feelz and you want to pander and brown-nose to non-white demographics because Huffpost or Cosmo magazine told you that its trendy, then go listen to something less offensive and more socially acceptable, like that Top 40 Kidzbop garbage.
Now go ahead, ye spineless cuckwads, and vote this comment down too. All that does is show me how many posers we have among us. Still don’t think you’re a poser? Remember: Metal is the music of adversary and rebellion. Those who upset the system are always few in number, and people like myself do exactly that. You, who disagree with me, and the few others like me who upset your hivemind mentality, are the system. You are the majority. nearly everyone agrees with you. You echo the propaganda of almost every western government, and that makes you the system. The fact that you listen to metal at all is, therefore, quite redundant.
john o.
February 3, 2016 at 7:42 am
“racism is not ‘extreme,’ it’s ignorant, dumb and worthless”
well said!
mishy
February 3, 2016 at 7:42 am
here is petition to remove from download festival
change.org/p/andy-copping-download-festival-2016-remove-racist-phil-anselmo-from-download-festival-2016-line-up
odinnmerckx
February 2, 2016 at 3:22 pm
Fuck Phil Anselmo. He’s an idiot.
Justin
February 2, 2016 at 9:53 am
Standing in solidarity.
hypocrite
February 1, 2016 at 10:09 pm
“The other day, someone asked me what I think of Kerry King from SLAYER always trashing MACHINE HEAD and me,” Flynn stated. “You want to know what I think? I think the guy’s a jerk. I think the guy’s a lard ass. I think the guy’s eaten so many cheeseburgers lately his brain is starting to clog up, and he can’t think straight anymore. And, I think it’s really hard to get offended when the guy who’s talking trash about you looks like RIGHT SAID FRED with a beard, and wears ass-less leather chaps. I mean, c’mon!? The guy wears ass-less leather chaps!!!? Where I live in San Francisco, that’d be Kerry Queen. Make no mistake about it, I am a huge SLAYER fan. Not a Kerry fan. But hell,.. The way I look at it, I take pleasure in knowing that by doing absolutely nothing, we can be such a source of irritation to one man.”
Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robert-flynn-kerry-king-s-eaten-so-many-cheeseburgers-his-brain-s-starting-to-clog-up/#JZ2wEmV1HiURBkBx.99
Class act. Nice gay joke.
Rafael Madrid
February 1, 2016 at 9:41 am
Thanks for this. I live in Brazil, 33 years old, listening to metal music since I was a kid, and something that always bothered me was: which one of these guys are racists, neonazi, or something? It kind of tear my heart appart to know that someone like Phil Anselmo, that could be an example of chemical and personal overcoming ofr millions of kids out there, acted like this while drunk.
PS: Why not make a selection of notorious racists/neonazi in Rock/Metal, so we can be aware of what’s going on ? 😉
Tks for the article
jf
February 1, 2016 at 6:55 am
Thanks for posting this. I love how people are trying to defend this by making stupid “What about first amendment? What about not being PC?” comments. You can say whatever you want, yes, but then we don’t need to support you. Fuck off, Phil.
C
January 31, 2016 at 7:34 pm
I’ve been an avid reader for three years, and I’ve never left a comment. But I want to now to say that I stand in solidarity with you, Sean, and all anti-racists in the metal/punk/underground communities. I’m glad you spoke to this, and did so loudly. Anyone who thinks racism has a place in metal or punk needs to get out of the scene: all of this culture started as a reaction to mass culture, of which racism is a part. True punks and metal heads know this, and they don’t support fascism and racism in any form. Of course there have been bands in these scenes that have touted racist flags, and the real scene stands up to them and calls them on their bullshit. Anselmo is a tool. Burzum is a tool. NSBM is a bunch of bands who are also tools. Thank you for this. I appreciate it, and have only become a bigger fan of CVLT Nation. If you’re saying that there’s no room in metal for PC, get out of the scene. You have no idea of its history, and we don’t want you here. Go vote for Trump and wear a Polo shirt instead.
To quote an old hardcore band from the ’80s, Brotherhood: “we’re dedicated to stop your ignorance/ we’ll band together to bring you to your knees/ for your actions, we have no tolerance/ blind hate, prejudice, a disease.”
Andrew
January 31, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Whole new level of respect for Flynn.
d
January 31, 2016 at 5:13 pm
everyone who has followed pantera over the years know how this dude feels. from speeches against rap and all types other shit it aint no secret where he is coming from. Panteras music is great but that dont mean the dude aint racist but hey whut you gonna do…….
Jason Bunch
January 31, 2016 at 8:00 am
Right on. Love this quote “In our opinion, racism is not “extreme,” it’s ignorant, dumb and worthless.” I said the same thing yesterday over at Metal Sucks. Racism is just plain old fashion ignorance, ain’t nothing edgy about it.
Katelyn
January 31, 2016 at 5:55 am
This was an amazing article. I’m impressed by everyone’s openness to hold those accountable for the hate mongering views… This is the only genra of muisic (which I thoroughly love) that is filled with so much hate. It’s one thing to let emotions drive your creativity but why taint music with your hate.
santos
January 31, 2016 at 4:29 am
i get confused when people insist that they’re being iconoclasts by taking a stand against supposed “pc fags,” cuz my understanding is that racism is just the norm in this society? it’s business as fuckin usual: police shootings, mass incarceration, deportations, displacement, community divestment etc etc etc. for folks who love to talk about how much they hate, i don’t get why they keeping fighting to uphold these tired moral values.
Vijay
January 30, 2016 at 3:49 pm
Lemme just say my 2 cents. I am a minority at metal shows. I am a big hairy Indian chef. I’m wrong in about 90% of the places I go. But I have never experienced anyone being racists towards me or any other minorities at any show I have been to. But then again I have been lucky like that my whole life. Metal fans are a brotherhood (meant in the most universal sense of the word) where we can all be ourselves and release our demons and hopefully gain some friends. I say all of this because I agree wholeheartedly with Sean, there is no place for racism in our culture. Racism and PC are truly 2 sides of the same bullshit coin. But to say that we need some of that safe space shit and for calling people out for being overt or even covert racists is even more bullshit. This is not a college frat or sorority that is based on inclusion through exclusion. If you love the music, and feel the music, we love you. And because we love you, we will call you out on your shit and make you rethink it.
Dustin Wyatt
January 30, 2016 at 2:43 pm
Hell. Yes.
Jim Horne
January 30, 2016 at 1:00 pm
Drunk fool
Jeff Riniker
January 30, 2016 at 12:47 pm
What an idiot. That’s what an 8th grade education gets ya.
Loki Freign
January 30, 2016 at 12:43 pm
sorry, racist cowards 🙂
there are more of us than you, and we will destroy you, in front of your family and friends, and laugh
@Doshin: I encourage you to take your mission to real life – come tell us to leave in person 🙂
Alween Lopez
January 30, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Racism is the first step to hate and segregation. Fuck them all
Daniel Johansson
January 30, 2016 at 12:02 pm
Word!
Brian Killoran
January 30, 2016 at 11:55 am
One good thing about Anselmos douchebaggery is that its kick started a conversation about tolerance of racism in metal. Its heartening to see so many reject racism – and good that we use the opportunity to speak out. Fuck racism …. fuck it right in the ear. 👍
Dirk Dirksen
January 30, 2016 at 11:18 am
common shitty metal dudes hold common shitty metal opinions. get real, asshats
Layne Franks
January 30, 2016 at 11:10 am
Anselmo is a dick granted. But trying to censor someone because they don’t agree with you is you being no different than the Nazis. It’s bs and I think censorship has no place in metal. No matter what the reason
Michel Arnaud
January 30, 2016 at 11:10 am
racist are monkeys. Sorry, monkey are more intelligent and friendly. So racist are…let say….roaches. Just something you crush with your shoes because it is ugly and it stinks. Furthermore, in music, racism is just sewer full of shit. Those persons, for me have no name and no face and are just diarrhea.
Thomas Proskow
January 30, 2016 at 10:21 am
Never liked Pantera……
Victor Marques
January 30, 2016 at 10:08 am
It’s funny how people can’t see some things as countercultural symbols. Satanism has an aesthetical conception in music. Satan never seems like an opressive figure, as racism.
There’s something related with rebellion, be different, follow another path. Racism doesn’t express this, just shows that you are an idiot.
Very nice text, as usual.
Ryan Jones
January 30, 2016 at 10:04 am
Thank you for sharing. I used to listen to Pantera, had no idea about Phil’s racist beliefs. I will no longer support him in any way and will tell my friends what an ignorant goon he is.
Shinobi Yenne
January 30, 2016 at 10:02 am
Well, Well, Well…
In My Opinion #RobbFlynn Is Right In What He Said, But Now If #Phil Is Or Isn’t #IDontGiveAFuck! I Will Go Straight To The Point Creatures! What Really Matters To Me Is Your Music Because I Really Love And I Will Not Leave The Listen Because Of What Happened (I Know That No One Told Me To Stop Listening Creature, I Just Wanted To Say, Ok? 😎 ) And I Just Think We Should Separate Things And I Also See The Positive Side (I Said “ME” If You Don’t, I Don’t Care! 😀 )… So, This Is My Opinion! Have A Nice Day 🙂
Matthias Iscariot
January 30, 2016 at 10:00 am
Now, the next thing everyone should be asking is why hasn’t Dave Grohl condemned Anselmo? After all, Rob Flynn has. But Grohl, who was there as well, has been quiet about it. Is Grohl a dickwad like Anselmo?
Edvin Lxlx
January 30, 2016 at 9:57 am
So many posers in the comments that think right wing status quo is metal in any way…
Seth Wilson
January 30, 2016 at 9:43 am
So rape, incest, and murder are all acceptable subject matter but draw a line in the sand with racism?
Gav Quinn
January 30, 2016 at 9:24 am
Fuck this loser, he’s a has been. What an idiot.
Doshin Tlacuache
January 30, 2016 at 8:57 am
If you can’t handle the fascism and satanism you need to get the fuck on.
This shit has never been about shiny happy bullshit and popular opinions.
Those elemnts are present to keep pussies with sticks up their asses the hell out.
Doesn’t matter how many vegan faggots you squeeze into a distorted guitar band it still won’t make it metal.
Taking all the fashion elements and visuals and mixing them with a femenist agenda doesn’t make you anything but a goddamn poser.
We don’t want or need you here. Take your posing asses back to Hot Topic.
We can’t wait until all of you fashion rocking shitbags so concerned with judging everything finally offend yourselves the fuck out of our culture.
You aren’t metal and never will be. You don’t have a sense of humor and the fascism and satanism checks your Ned Flanders asses at the fucking door.
…no surprise that you are a bunch of fucking posers; cheers to you for “coming out” about it;
Now take your fucking hormone pills and go bitch somewhere else.
Alex Wizo
January 31, 2016 at 4:29 am
You’re a monkey in term of brain functions tho i should apologize to actual monkeys to say so. You’re stuck into a nightmare and didn’t probly noticed what happened around you in the past 20 years just be aware you’re a disgrace to the scene you think you are part of, there’s no space for your shit, deal with it, people like you are a crumble of dried shit on the butthole of history.
Andy Bullivent
January 31, 2016 at 6:32 am
So you don’t think that Phil should have apologised? So why did he? If he apologises, does that make him a poser, or a sell out? He said “You should be offended”, so why weren’t you?
http://loudwire.com/philip-anselmo-video-apology-offensive-gesture-exclamation/
Todd A. Smith
January 30, 2016 at 8:55 am
Here’s a bit for the “White pride isn’t racist! If they can have black pride, what’s the difference?” contingent:
“Black pride” does not mean “black supremacy”. The movement did not come about from black people trying to claim mastery. “Black pride” is a reaction to and a rejection of centuries of being told dark skin makes them inferior, and is a source of shame. “White pride” stands for enforcing and maintaining that tired status quo. “White pride” is born from fear of equality, which means their formerly exclusive privileges now apply to all.
Further, metal would not exist at all without black musicians. Metal comes from rock and roll, which, in turn, comes from the blues. Black blues musicians were regularly suspected of having made pacts with Satan – which is, indisputably, metal as all fuck – long before Ozzy Osbourne’s parents had even met. Remember when Kristian Vikernes tried to distance himself from influence by black blues musicians? He claimed Burzum’s metal was based on (white) classical, rather than rock/blues, like other metal bands.
Phil Anselmo has a long history of espousing ignorant views, as well as (in my opinion) making weak and dull music. Possibly, this particular incident was meant as a “joke”. From someone with no previous record of endorsing NS/WP ideas, I’d say let it go as a bad joke. This guy, though, is a fuck. Pantera embraced their reputation as redneck favorites. The “heritage, not hate” campaign was an apologist farce. Look at the “heritage” they were celebrating, after all.
Joel Furze
January 30, 2016 at 8:21 am
I’m off to buy Machine Head’s entire back catalog.
Matt Butler
January 30, 2016 at 8:16 am
If you think “guilty of being white” is about white pride they what they say about racism is true! IT MAKES YOU DUMB ASS FUCK! That song is about growing in and around DC and being label a racist as kids by black folks in the area! It’s a response seeing that NO I’m not racist because of the color of my skin! It says, just because I’m white doesn’t mean I’m racist! RACISM MAKES YOU STUPID!
Matt Butler
January 30, 2016 at 8:08 am
Racism is for the feeble minded!
Jean Guy Rubber Boot
January 30, 2016 at 8:01 am
Awesome. I hope people stop supporting this drunk ignorant idiot.
David Rogers
January 30, 2016 at 7:29 am
If this idiot would’ve tried this BS at the Outhouse in Lawrence back in the early 90s when we were at the shows, he would’ve caught a mud hole stomping, the fuck outta here! I saw fools hospitalized for talking that white power mess. The true Hardcore scene has no respect for racism, and we had zero tolerance, even true skinheads are non racist and would always beat down the few racist boneheads and expel them with force. The Metal scene needs to clean house. Anselmo did the Seig Heil, but he got a “placa” tattoo on his stomach, in curved letters, copying off the Mexicans style lol.
Elizabeth Krevy
January 30, 2016 at 7:21 am
Haha at all the butthurt white people in this thread.
Brad Sloan
January 30, 2016 at 7:14 am
He was fucking joking around you stupid pussies. Sounds like CVLT (whoever you are) is a bunch of PC hipster pussies. Toughen up and and take a joke, he was saying it like “white wine power”. This is ridiculous.
Kimberly Schmidt
January 30, 2016 at 7:07 am
I just dont think there is a place in the world today for any type of discrimination/ racism of any kind.
Brandon Armstrong
January 30, 2016 at 6:49 am
Gumb’eh Gt Thrasher
Craig Ferguson
January 30, 2016 at 6:29 am
Man who gives a fuck what this washed up former star thinks, Phil’s a fucking idiot, no one but trailer trash takes him seriously anyway.
Fabian VB
January 30, 2016 at 6:27 am
right on!
Chuck Nanopoulos
January 30, 2016 at 5:26 am
The fact that he was even there is an insult to DimeBag
FUCK PHIL
Rick Christie
January 30, 2016 at 5:16 am
Well said Cult Nation. Fuck racism.
Ron Ramey
January 30, 2016 at 4:36 am
Though I’m not into your music, I’m a fan in spirit! It took guts in standing by your view and not bending over to anyone’s narrow look on life, this won’t be easy Dwite but you were never one to take that road!
Tomasz Borys
January 30, 2016 at 4:34 am
And satanism isn’t “ignorant, dumb and worthless” ? You’re so funny witj your political correct “extremism”.
Ben Carter
January 30, 2016 at 4:26 am
Dumb guy makes dumb joke, let’s all freak out!!!
Steve Myles
January 30, 2016 at 4:18 am
Love this site, proper on it!! Apathy has no place in metal or in a forward thinking world! Congrats to everyone who has the courage to stand against hate, really hope that this starts a cataclysm which weeds out all the narcissistic, knuckle dragging, alpha male dick heads which have been spoiling heavy music since the start!!
Keating Elrod
January 30, 2016 at 4:00 am
Not only is Phil a backwards thinking asshat…he admits to drinking WINE at Dimebash? WINE??? Does he think he’s one of the chicks from sex and the city or some shit? That’s about as metal as that Manaj girl…
Ric Ruggeri
January 30, 2016 at 4:00 am
Crazy how many people are backing Phil, his a cunt who’s put a stain on the awesomeness of Pantera, maybe a time for a re-release with Robb Flynn on vocals!!!
Flo Rock
January 30, 2016 at 3:49 am
Phil H Anselmo…… such an ignorant , arrogant , disgusting pile of crap. He shouldn`t be allowed to perform anywhere not even in his hometown New Orleans . Put him in a cave …where he belongs .
Jesse Soisalo
January 30, 2016 at 3:39 am
Racists are a bunch of fucking pussies. If you want to be a total fuckhead and hate on something, then you should go all the way and be a misanthrope. Go big or go home.
Spector Joel
January 30, 2016 at 3:33 am
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. Everyone is an asshole.
Joe Mow
January 30, 2016 at 3:22 am
People shouldn’t tell you what or what not to condone now you look like a bunch of politically correct pussys.
Eric Gould
January 30, 2016 at 3:10 am
Blllllat
Lisa Freydis McEntire
January 30, 2016 at 3:09 am
Blah Blah Blah….. so sick of all of this stupid crap !!!
Babs Johnson
January 30, 2016 at 3:02 am
Cvlt Nation <3
BJ Burris
January 30, 2016 at 3:00 am
what’s that you say?…white wine, perhaps?
BJ Burris
January 30, 2016 at 3:00 am
soooo racist
BJ Burris
January 30, 2016 at 2:49 am
guess u all forgot one of his bands features two non-white members out of four total members?
Chet Harbinger
January 30, 2016 at 2:44 am
Racism is certainly still a problem but judging from this thread so if homophobia. Gay slurs across the board. Metal badly needs to evolve its ideas.
wb16Z
January 30, 2016 at 2:28 am
I agree 100% with this article–I think though, that *in my opinion* it’s not just “biological racism” that is prevalent in metal communities (it’s not always just about that “0.01% of their DNA that determines their external appearance”). In my experience, there’s a “sneakier” (sneakier bc it’s not always professed by ppl who would openly call themselves white supremacists) type of racism which I would call “cultural racism” where extremely ignorant ppl think that bc they’ve misread like two paragraphs of a bad Nietzsche translation or bc they cant think for themselves and will be perpetually holding on tight to Varg’s balls that there are “cultures” that can be quantified as “superior” to others and that there are also ppl who embody these monolithic and often ignorant constructions of culture who are also the agents of some sort of “cultural decay » (9/10 times ppl from Muslim-majority countries bc « Islam is for slaves » or smthg–at least here in Europe~). So these are the ppl who get all hysterical and burst a hemorrhoid if you call them a “white supremacist” bc they think white supremacist = eugenicist or Grand Wizard of the KKK or 15 y/o white-boy in the deeps of midwest america blogging castles and quotes from the eddas and blondes frolicking in fields bc #whiteculture. They also think certain « non-white »/« non-western »/”marginally European”&c ppl get the #bad-ass or #sofuckingmetal certification bc they vaguely remind them of Easterlings or are supposedly inherently « savage » or contributed unintentionally to some sort of cosmic esotericism and quack metaphysics espoused by a metal band. I think it would be interesting in general to look at how racism works in different genres of metal bc I see this “cultural racism” as very much there among black metal fans bc much of black metal depends on a construction of “Judaeo-Christian” (whatever that means) culture as the ~enemy~.
atf
January 30, 2016 at 2:28 am
This was necessary. I was trying to find that article on biker gangs with a lot of pictures, including those with the girls wearing the ‘property of’ on their jackets, but couldn’t anymore. Did I see it in some other site? Was it here and you people deleted it? If so, good for you. It deeply antagonized your decision not to post about sexist agendas. I found that post repulsive and disturbing, in the way it glamorized mysoginy. Same way I feel when there’s promotion of a band or people with racist views. I don’t care what music they make. One has to stand her/his ground. That’s the only way to be.
lookingfortarp
January 30, 2016 at 2:21 am
Fuck you Colin Charles, you’re a self superior piece of shit.
Jeffrey Dahma
January 30, 2016 at 2:17 am
Hahahaha Hail PHIL !!!! Cvlt nation sounds like its time for you to pack your faggot balls in your purse and fuck off ~
Brian Trevelyan
January 30, 2016 at 1:36 am
No idea what it’s like in the US but the UK scene has zero tolerance for racism.
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 1:19 am
Jose Luis Bravo
January 30, 2016 at 1:17 am
just as a reminder in case you want to reject some other bands because of their provocative attitude:
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 1:13 am
Metal shouldn’t be safe so whatever the extreme content is . It don’t bug me one bit or the most part . Phil’s just a fence sitting can’t make up his mind faggot
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 1:11 am
I hate organized religion not races . Hail the devil
Paul Aylmore
January 30, 2016 at 1:11 am
One word.Burzum
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 1:12 am
Burzum is great . (Varg on the other hand is a pretentious turd)
Paul Aylmore
January 30, 2016 at 1:13 am
Totally agree. Love the music but hate the ideology behind it. I think its the same with phil.
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 1:16 am
I’m on board with him hating Christianity and burning down the churches
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 12:46 am
But it isn’t that big of a deal unlike what media and people over exaggerate it to be. Black panthers get way more leniency on their bullshit
Jason Michelucci
January 30, 2016 at 12:45 am
Idc about racism in the lyrical content but the racial salute is dumb. Its trying to be ‘edgy’ or ‘extreme’ and all it is is wishing one was really in the reich and that regime is gone so move on
Nick Sicomoro
January 30, 2016 at 12:35 am
Fuck!
Wouter Duprez
January 30, 2016 at 12:34 am
Hear hear
Jay Trautmann
January 30, 2016 at 12:31 am
What people who aren’t in the know don’t realize is… that when someone in the know yells out what sounds like to people who aren’t in the know, “White Power” and throws out a sieg heil, that person is in fact shouting out WHITE POWDER. this is a cry out for help. The person screaming White Powder is incredibly drunk and in dire needs for a line of cocaine and is using this secret white powder code in hopes someone will offer him some cocaine
Brendan McIntyre
January 30, 2016 at 12:16 am
Also fuck this article
Brendan McIntyre
January 30, 2016 at 12:16 am
Fuck this article ! It was a joke about white wine ! You fucks
Max B
January 30, 2016 at 12:13 am
Great article. Fuck any piece of shit bigot who equates opposing nazism and white supremacy with being an “oversensitive SJW”. No, it means you have a fucking conscience.
Mike Vangrin
January 30, 2016 at 12:12 am
Ever been to a Slayer show in San Diego??… guess not
Tanner Dibbern
January 30, 2016 at 12:10 am
Racism doesn’t belong in metal. The majority of bands I enjoy are foreign. If I was racist, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy sepultura… And I need sepultura.. Fuck Phil, I’ve never liked him anyways.
Chris Lobo
January 30, 2016 at 12:08 am
Phil Anselmo is Broken
Cory Carter
January 30, 2016 at 12:07 am
Phil isn’t a fucking racist. He says dumb shit when he’s drunk/high (yes I’ve seen the Rob Flynn video and he’s a pussy). Has anyone seen the Superjoint CBGB video where Phil points out a black man tearing up the pit? Yeah a racist would totally do that. Go fuck yourselves.
Dwite Stanger
January 29, 2016 at 11:59 pm
Dunderhead
January 29, 2016 at 11:48 pm
“In case you need a brushup on history, white men aren’t oppressed by black people here in America.” You presuming piece of shit. How dare you speak for every person defined as a “white man”. You don’t have a clue whether or not they were oppressed or not because you do not and can not know. Sure, the phrase(s)”white power/white pride” is sophomoric and silly, but only as knuckleheaded and doofusy as “black power/black pride”. Race don’t mean shit and that goes for white, black, green, whatever. And as far as “history” goes, it’s dead and buried everytime someone opens their mouth. So you wanna create? Fucking create and bring in something new instead of rehashing the same old shit.
Mike Engler
January 29, 2016 at 11:46 pm
I really don’t think Phil is racist in the sense that he hates anyone based on color or race or anything like that. Come on, he grew up in new Orleans. I think he’s just proud of being white. It’s not a crime in itself. Hell, I’m proud of being white, I hope black people are proud of being black and so on. It doesn’t mean that there is hate behind it. I never did and never will judge people based on their ethnicity, race or color. I will, however, judge them upon attitude. And that’s all from me.
Lisa Aurel
January 29, 2016 at 11:43 pm
Extreme music for extreme people.
Thomas Martin Vestenbæk Hansen
January 29, 2016 at 11:38 pm
agreed, fuck this piece of shit. Fuck your fan boy serial killer articles as well.
Lena Smith
January 29, 2016 at 11:35 pm
You just gained another follower…
Lena Smith
January 29, 2016 at 11:34 pm
<3
Emma Rooney
January 29, 2016 at 11:23 pm
You gotta wonder about his IQ level. You know when you hear a 5 year old say something they overheard and don’t have the intelligence to understand its meaning. Well it’s like that except he is an old man now and should have brain evolved. Craving attention. It’s so pathetic you nearly can’t be offended. Claiming it was a joke. It’s like sorry sir the dog ate my homework. Morto for you Phil.
skinnee
January 29, 2016 at 11:02 pm
well said…and how did i know the comments would be utterly sad and disgusting? hahahaha pathetic fucking hicks. you sons of bitches are just too fucking dumb and lazy to use your fucking brain, so rather than think about your fucking actions, you take the self serving route. who woulda thought? hahahah you’re so fucking lame and predictable. you have every right to suck as bad as you do…and the fact that you choose to do so, just proves how fucking worthless you are. i’m glad things like this happen, because it reminds the rest of us, just how fucking bad shit has gotten within our own subculture, and provides an opportunity to address these things.
Fletch Jimerson
January 29, 2016 at 10:54 pm
STFU all you whiny ass bitches,there is rampant racism all over the place we see it and hear it all the time and maybe this is just Phil is just putting in two cents about it maybe like the rest of us are just plain sick and tired of seeing this country tear itself apart and every time you turn around someone is crying discrimination or racism,people think they are owed something and they aren’t owed shit I don’t care what color,religion or atheist ,agnostic or what ever the hell you may be gay lesbian bi your not entitled to a FUCKING thing so stop acting like it
Lior Shpindler
January 29, 2016 at 10:50 pm
What a dumb idiot!
Brendon Yost
January 29, 2016 at 10:46 pm
A drunk dude doing shit tons of people probably do in the privacy of their own homes as a total joke.
Martin Breitenbach
January 29, 2016 at 10:41 pm
I never liked this doucebag or his shitty bands. Fuck him and his fans.
Dustin Leos
January 29, 2016 at 10:15 pm
Phil has been doing that shit as long as I could remember, now all of a sudden everyone wants to get pissed off today !?!?!
Is this because of all the incidents recently about white cops killing black folks?
Fuck the pigs, Phil was just being Phil.
If you’re pissed off about what he did last Friday, you should still be pissed off At him from the 1990 Cowboys from Hell tour!
Who gives a fuck.
Steve Ferrell
January 29, 2016 at 11:31 pm
But wait,,, I thought you were mad to? Haha!! Didn’t you want to knock Phil out for this yesterday
Dustin Leos
January 29, 2016 at 11:35 pm
Steve Ferrell you’re deaf or I mean can’t read, I said what he said to Rob backstage about how he hates his nigger days, basically calling Rob a nigger, yes, I would have knocked him the fuck out. Again, what he did onstage does not bother me.
Steve Ferrell
January 29, 2016 at 11:44 pm
Rob is just mad cause Phil said he didn’t like his rap crap albums.
Dustin Leos
January 29, 2016 at 11:46 pm
If he said he didn’t like his rap crap albums, then it’s an opinion. But when he uses the word nigger, and singles out a group of people(black people) That is a problem. Do you understand?
Steve Ferrell
January 29, 2016 at 11:58 pm
I absolutely understand. But Robs not black. Neither is anybody else in Machine Head. I think the whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. I’m not a racist! But I’ve said the word nigger before. It’s probably not the best word to use when describing Machine Heads crap albums. It’s about intention and purpose. If Phil said the word nigger with the intent of hating someone for being a certain skin color then it was fuckin wrong. But just saying the word nigger doesn’t make you a racists no more than saying the word God makes you a Baptist. I just don’t think that Phil’s intent was to single out and hate someone for being black. But I dunno, maybe he was?
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:07 am
Maybe you should have this talk with Mike Smith, Terrance Hobbs, Rocky George, etc. and other blacks that have brought us some awesome Metal. Maybe they can make you understand the point.
Steve Ferrell
January 30, 2016 at 12:24 am
Steve Ferrell
January 30, 2016 at 12:25 am
Again, I absolutely understand the point. Hating anybody over the color of there skin is wrong. In any way shape or form. But it’s about intent. Like if I call you a “Mexican Jew motherfucker you” just playing around out having a drink at a metal show. My intent wouldn’t of been of hatred for you, Jews or Mexicans.
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:26 am
So remembering those pictures, maybe you should reread the bullshit you wrote.
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:27 am
And also, I didn’t say post pictures, I said tell them your point that you’re trying to tell me.
Steve Ferrell
January 30, 2016 at 12:28 am
What do you mean? I haven’t said anything bad about them or black people? I think you must be misunderstanding what I said bro
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:28 am
Or maybe you should rewatch the Rob video. Rob explains it to you in plain English
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:29 am
Don’t try to justify what Rob said Phil said to him. Phil was in the wrong in that Pvt conversation with Rob.
Steve Ferrell
January 30, 2016 at 12:37 am
I didn’t even watch the whole Rob video man. I thought the whole thing was more bitching and moaning over what Phil did onstage. I don’t know anything about what was said or done backstage. If Phil was being a drunk asshole backstage saying racists Shit then Fuck him. Unless you were there then you have no clue what was said or what the intent was when saying it. If Phil said bigger with the intent of hating black people because they are black then he’s a racist piece of Shit!
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:39 am
So stop pulling bullshit out of your ass and watch the whole video homes!
Steve Ferrell
January 30, 2016 at 12:47 am
Is it a video of what happened backstage? Or is it a video of Rob giving you his version of what happened backstage? Nobody knows what happened backstage there unless you were there. People were drunk. People say stupid Shit when there drunk. Phil said he didn’t like Machine Heads music so much. That Pissed Rob off. Rob whines about Phil on some video. It’s all a bunch of Soap Opera Bullshit. The whole things bullshit! Free publicity. The next Superjoint and Machine Head will do awesome
Dustin Leos
January 30, 2016 at 12:50 am
Ya. Robb’s lying for absolutely no reason. They have only known each other for 20 years plus. This conversation is done.
Dustin Leos
January 29, 2016 at 10:15 pm
Brigita Dejvid
January 29, 2016 at 10:08 pm
Shoot direct in head mother fuckin rasicm.
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 10:05 pm
Stormfront are already circling the wagons around their great white hero. https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1140659/
Keith Young
January 29, 2016 at 10:02 pm
thank you metal. rage on.without the hate of course
Jimmy Turner
January 29, 2016 at 9:45 pm
Fuck you shit metal fucktards phil fuck shitty fuckbags racist shit extreme fuck you metal is fuck shit racist fucks phil fuck shit metal fuck you shit extreme fuck!!!!
Dale Wilson
January 29, 2016 at 9:44 pm
Great band. Really, really disappointing.
Eric Sneed
January 29, 2016 at 9:32 pm
Its pretty stupid to even have an opinion on this. Anything anyone does now is racist, or homophobic or some other stupid shit. If you like black metal and buy it, you’re probably supporting someone who is egalitarian and therefore racist to some degree. If you support old school death metal and buy it you’re definitely supporting some racists, Obituary opens their set with fucking rebel stomp or whatever and no one cares. You’re all by definition being “bigots” for showing intolerance to Phil’s beliefs which in no way affects any of you. he isn’t going to bring in the 5th reich, and he probably isnt even an activist. keep stupid fucking non music news out of metal. Fucking tabloid bullshit.
Kevin Grind
January 29, 2016 at 11:38 pm
CVCK
Tim Shrake
January 30, 2016 at 3:27 am
An Egalitarian would be someone who pushes the ideals of total equality.
How is that racist “to some degree”?
Ric Ruggeri
January 30, 2016 at 3:57 am
As Rob says, fuck you
Eric Sneed
January 30, 2016 at 6:16 am
Tim, total equality in this current time we live in is deemed racist by a large amount of people. If I were to say something like, I could walk into a business alongside one person from each race, the best qualified person will receive the job. I would probably be called a racist asshole. Or if I said equality is NOT having racial quotas in the work place, I would probably also be considered a racist.
Chris Nieto
January 29, 2016 at 9:22 pm
Humans are all vile shits regardless of race, religion etc. Now ….CATS…. They are fucking METAL! end of story. I wish Pantera was Cat Death Metal I really do.
Tom Currie
January 30, 2016 at 5:34 am
I concur
Anwar Cato
January 30, 2016 at 10:41 am
CAT POWER! SIEG TAIL!
Dave Henry
January 29, 2016 at 9:22 pm
Bunch of whining bitches. Shut up . pussified cock suckers
Jerry Tetpon
January 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm
White wine huh?? “Inside joke”, really Phil??
Joshua Scott Harthill
January 29, 2016 at 9:10 pm
Jonas Obscurity Teigen-Kolerud
January 29, 2016 at 8:40 pm
But Pantera isn’t metal
Ty-Reese Gray Gaffney
January 29, 2016 at 8:14 pm
Ben Ford how you feel about this
Ben Ford
January 29, 2016 at 8:32 pm
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/all-shall-perish-philip-anselmos-actions-are-a-stain-on-the-legacy-of-pantera/ this kind of perfectly sums up my thoughts on this. I’m not going to lie and say I’m not going to listen to Pantera, Down, or Super Joint Ritual because their lead singer is apparently a racist because that doesn’t change how awesome the artwork that the bands have come together to make. I can’t lie and say that the vocal majority (note, not the actual majority, just the majority of the loud assholes) at metal shows I have been to in the past weren’t racist (Ramos Roman can definitely add some insight here given our trip to mayhem fest where some dude called him by the n word literally on the walk into the place), but I can honestly say that it is definitely becoming a more diverse crowd at the shows I’ve been to. There are more minorities at shows every time I go, and even more people that will actually pipe up and call people out for racist actions which is definitely a plus. I don’t think there’s a place in any aspect of the world for legitimate racism, and if this was anything but a joke like he tried to imply it was (said he was drinking white wine and it was a joke about that, when video shows he was not drinking that, but lemon svedka) then I definitely just lost a lot of respect for one of my favorite vocalists
Mitchell Carlson
January 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm
So progressive :^)
Andrew Caine
January 29, 2016 at 7:54 pm
Joseph DeAngelis
January 29, 2016 at 7:53 pm
that picture looks like its a 2 headed man in 1 shirt.
Adam Bernhard
January 29, 2016 at 7:42 pm
Fuck racism in metal
Joshua Pippy Millar
January 29, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Some of the best black metal bands are racist
Jesse Asikainen
January 29, 2016 at 7:21 pm
Anselmo can fuck off and die.
Robert Martin
January 29, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Damn Rite !!!!!!!
Jeremy Chavira
January 29, 2016 at 7:04 pm
I live in Arlington Texas where Pantera is from I’m really not surprise by Phils actions he’s always been a huge dick . He’s always said something abt skinheads at his shows back in the day . Once a junky always a stupid junky u can see how fucking lit 💥 the guy is so obvious .
Art Bouman
January 29, 2016 at 7:02 pm
Seriously every genre that came out of Pantera was vacuous and boring establishment reinforcing trash anyway.
Stephanie McGarrah
January 29, 2016 at 6:54 pm
I’m just wondering why this is a big deal now when he’s been doing this shit forever? I love metal but I’m under no delusion that its free of racism. Its the society we live in, and people are just assholes?
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Having moved in various circles including different music scene, metal seems to unfortunately be one of the most intolerant and openly sexist, racist, homophobic, and generally right wing. It was founded and still is dominated by white men after all.
Emma Rooney
January 29, 2016 at 11:06 pm
Why is it rife in metal over any other type of music?
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 30, 2016 at 12:58 pm
I honestly don’t know. Ask metal heads that, not me. I don’t support it. Its just what I’ve seen/heard/experienced and its pretty widely known. I suggested above it may be the predominance of ‘white’ and male fans. No point being in denial.
Ohns Benj
January 30, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Anti ‘white male’ and nobody bats an eye.
Stephanie McGarrah
January 30, 2016 at 8:19 pm
^lol cool story bro.
Carlos Salvador Mazal
January 29, 2016 at 6:53 pm
A new low for Phil Anselmo. What an idiot.
Kristoph Kosicki
January 29, 2016 at 6:51 pm
Mason
Mason Cantwell
January 29, 2016 at 6:53 pm
This was the top trending topic in my feed last night. I always had a hunch. I guess it was valid.
Kristoph Kosicki
January 29, 2016 at 6:56 pm
Yeah. He’s always given speeches about how it’s okay to be proud of being white. Sure. But this particular display was pretty shitty
Mason Cantwell
January 29, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Real shitty
Dave Luna III
January 29, 2016 at 6:44 pm
get the fuck over it all… we watch hiltler on tv, all day, every fucking saturday and sunday do the same shit…. the only difference is one meant it…. lol
Docturnal Emission
January 29, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Lol ah yess metal heads unite let the opinions roll and the tears flow I suppose u all know him and u all have seen first hand the depths of his beliefs….One little photo from some drunken concert is the cornerstone for all the Phil hate I guess ….lol clowns….go run wild with your tiny lives and try and Dane cook the fuck outa this!!!! (Slow clap)
Bryan Dougherty
January 29, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Let his managment and booking know they shouldn’t profit from poison. Down management = McGhee entertainment, Hollywood…down@mcgheela.com 310-432-2250. Down booking = William Morris Endeavor, Beverly Hills BJAasst@wma.com 310-859-4511.
Alexandra Nicole
January 29, 2016 at 6:34 pm
Thank you
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 6:32 pm
You guys are dipshits. He was making a joke because they were drinking white wine. I’m sure most people don’t understand ironic humor (cause most of you are morons), but it’s a caricature of a racist. It’s satirical. Calm your pussies down.
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Bullshit according to Robb Flynn http://www.metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/machine-heads-robb-flynn-calls-out-phil-anselmo-there-was-no-white-wine-backstage
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 8:02 pm
You’re right down with free speech it’s had a good run
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Van Altis free speech is fine, but there are consequences. Like being labeled as a racist when you express racist views.
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 8:16 pm
Lol okay. Have fun living in oppression.
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Err. No. You saying racist things = free speech. Me calling you a racist when you say those things = free speech. Where’s the oppression?
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Is making a joke racist? Please make appt with obgyn
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Waa! we’re being oppressed because people are calling out racist douchebags!
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 8:58 pm
Free speech goes both ways.
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 8:59 pm
That’s not what free speech is.
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 9:07 pm
He’s free to say what ever he likes, the rest of us are free to call him a racist cock head when he acts like a racist cock head.
Van Altis
January 29, 2016 at 9:08 pm
Yeah I guess.
Edvin Lxlx
January 30, 2016 at 10:06 am
“Someone called me a racist! I’m so opressed!”
Van Altis
January 30, 2016 at 10:06 am
who called you a racist edvin?
Stefano Marotta
January 29, 2016 at 6:23 pm
There’s no such thing like “im metal so i can say whatever the fuck i want, even yelling white power and make the nazi salute”. No you’re just a piece of shit. And by the way, who the fuck cares anymore of “whats metal or not”. Wake up for christ sake, 80’s are over. A band can be more extreme simply doing punk or something heavy not marked as metal. Enough with the etiquettes.
Jason Baerrito Buttens
January 29, 2016 at 6:14 pm
God damn it Phillip… Good on you CVLT Nation.
Ben Panish
January 29, 2016 at 6:04 pm
White nationalist metalheads and porno grind rape apologists please go fucking kill yourselves.
John Foust
January 29, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Adam Newman Jamie Robles
Dennis LaCalandra
January 29, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Kerry Harpur
January 29, 2016 at 8:01 pm
PC is a dick move used by morons who are too stupid to formulate their own argument.
Tjalling Jn
January 30, 2016 at 10:59 am
#imacoolmeddulheadnow #tr00metalarmy #coolstorybro
Thomas
January 29, 2016 at 6:00 pm
Thanks for this. I find it utterly ridiculous that even metal journalist who condemn him still say how hard it is because they know him, it could hurt their careers, etc. He has been a blunt minded racist for a long time and let’s just be honest: most of us realized Pantera sucked once we got out of middle school and discovered better music. So, thanks for this righteously angry, uncompromising response.
Ben Brucato
January 29, 2016 at 5:56 pm
Racism is banal and status quo.
Andrew Ross Maxwell
January 29, 2016 at 5:54 pm
I think it’s okay for metalheads to criticize our own scene and we should work like hell to get rid of this shit. Unilaterally: fuck racism. — But when people from outside metal criticize metal I get really pissed. It’s like, this isn’t for you, it can be for you if you want it to be, but as it stands, you don’t know shit about me, you don’t know shit about black metal or doom metal, so fuck off back to Tumblr for a while and let me get back to things I give a shit about.
Bruno Maria Leone
January 29, 2016 at 7:23 pm
fuck yes!
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:31 pm
Nothing is above criticism. If an outsider can tell something is racist, it probably is. The ‘you have no right to an opinion if you aren’t one of us’ is exactly what Tumblr identity politics is based on.
Tim Shrake
January 30, 2016 at 3:38 am
Criticism is one thing.
Hoards of professional victims jumping on the grenade for no reason isn’t at all CONSTRUCTIVE.
I see the racism underlying Phil’s persona, but It’s not in the lyrics as far as I’ve heard. I don’t align myself with him or emulate any artist really, because that’s some teeny bopper shit. He’s a big dumb idiot with a killer, iconic voice.
I guess my point is that Superjoint Ritual’s “Use Once and Destroy” is fucking phenomenal and Phil’s a meathead.
Mayito Senalle
January 29, 2016 at 5:43 pm
Raptera philshit emo
Aidan Curran
January 29, 2016 at 5:37 pm
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/01/29/video-machine-heads-robb-flynn-responds-to-phil-anselmo-racism-accusations/
Ben Schmidt
January 29, 2016 at 5:36 pm
Fuck yeah!! You guys are amazing!
Stevie Janowski
January 29, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Robert Miles
January 29, 2016 at 5:28 pm
I agree. Racism is just pointless. Hate someone for what comes out of their mouth and lives in their mind – when you do that, you can never hate a group more than another, because the human race is a terrible and beautiful thing.
Nathan Glover
January 29, 2016 at 5:26 pm
Metal is complicated, it contains a wide range of viewpoints that all manage to fit into the genre despite often being contradictory. Too often people wheel out the “metal is white, racist, sexist, homophobic” and point to examples like Burzum etc and yeah it is all of that but it is also progressive, multicultural, environmentalist, feminist and pro lgbti as well and you could equally point to bands like Judas Priest, Napalm Death and Melechesh as examples. Thats precisely why it works and what is actually the best thing about it – theres no overriding viewpoint. Theres a clash and that clash creates discourse and the freedom to speak and also for those concepts to be explored rather than swept under the rug. Metal is reactionary from all angles of the spectrum.
So yeah sure, i’d love to see racism, sexism gone etc but only by rational discussion and persuasion of argument rather than suppression and censorship. I would rather face the fact that things i don’t like exist rather then paper over them for my own comfort, echo chambers are often more dangerous than a conflict of ideas.
With regards to the Anselmo incident, it may have been an inside joke but since I wasn’t there its impossible to know. With inside jokes though you need to make sure everyone is in on the joke for it to be funny. Clearly not the case since someone felt it needed to be shown to the general public. At face value he’s guilty of telling a joke that fell flat. If it wasn’t a play on white wine then theres something more sinister there.
Is he racist? Maybe, seems like he has enough interaction and good relationships with people of different colours and cultures to suggest he isn’t or at least not maliciously so but then again its not the first time he’s said something with a racial connotation so theres at least an element of it at play.
I’m not sure if “I don’t know, probably a little but not really” is an acceptable answer in an age of black/white reductionism, sloganeering and public hysteria but its probably the most accurate.
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Metal is reactionary? You do know what that word means right?
Nathan Glover
January 29, 2016 at 8:50 pm
Yes why? If you are referring to typically being opposed to change then no that is not the meaning i am utilising. I mean in the sense that it is oppositional to traditional structures and viewpoints for better or for worse.
Nathan Glover
January 30, 2016 at 4:00 am
Understandable that you may have thought i meant in the conservative sense as that is the most typical application of the word.
Kirk Duvall
January 29, 2016 at 5:23 pm
Even Skwedwiver?
Trash Breeds Trash
January 29, 2016 at 5:18 pm
Fuck you and Move on
Charles Wade Porter
January 29, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Who cares.
Hermann Norse
January 29, 2016 at 5:12 pm
Clickbait article full of butthurt nonsensical content. Full support for Anselmo.
Ian Hardacre
January 29, 2016 at 5:09 pm
I’ve noticed that the people commenting here who disagree with the article and actually believe in racist bullshit seem to make more spelling and grammatical mistakes. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
Robert Bauwens
January 29, 2016 at 5:09 pm
So glad I never jumped on the Pantera short bus.
Jason J. Carlton
January 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Another person to disagree with. Whatever. F*ck off…
Rick
January 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
@Colin
There’s plenty of room for anti-racist views in metal. In fact, I think it’s pretty goddam metal to say Fuck You to the people who piss you off. And the people in my home town who grab their baseball bats and guns when they hear that there have been Nazi’s spotted in town are a lot more metal than some pathetic basement dweller who smiles and nods along to shit they know is wrong.
Jeff Paris
January 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Wtf is going on in here?
Paul Curt
January 29, 2016 at 5:04 pm
It’s ok for blacks to hold their fists in the air and say black power but it’s not ok for a white dude to say it
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Ever heard of structural racism bro?
Paul Curt
January 30, 2016 at 11:22 am
No but I’ve herd of double standard and hypocrites that cry racism but yet say black power and shit
Damion Lee
January 29, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Having white pride DOES NOT make someone a bigot or racist
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:52 pm
LOL
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 9:26 pm
I’m laughing at you not with you. Don’t flatter yourself.
Damion Lee
January 29, 2016 at 9:44 pm
Oh look you can use words other than monosyllabic ones; that’s impressive for something of minor non-autonomous intelligence. Go troll someone who cares 🙂
Ian Hardacre
January 29, 2016 at 4:54 pm
It kind of depresses me that so many ignorant, hateful people share an interest with me in the music I love so much. But I’m glad those people seemed be vastly outnumbered by others who will call bullshit on bigoted behaviour.
Jesse Mowery
January 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm
With the huge backlash from people claiming pc culture is hurting us, it seems like being anti racist/homophobic/sexist is a more extreme concept than saying bigoted shit
Brad Smith
January 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm
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Tim Hartmann
January 31, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Saw this a few days ago, pretty disappointing
James Marinelli
January 29, 2016 at 4:49 pm
Respect!
Derek Rush
January 29, 2016 at 4:44 pm
“Anyone who espouses the belief that the 0.01% of their DNA that determines their external appearance makes them genetically superior to another human being is a fucking fool and astoundingly ignorant” THANK YOU
Robert D Hunter
January 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm
People bitching about this are pussies.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 29, 2016 at 4:37 pm
Why don’t you put on a diaper and join tumbr? Faggots.
The man apologized (mistake #1) and you social justice warriors still won’t stop giving him shit. He should have just told everyone to fuck themselves. Real metal people don’t need or seek approval.
Matthias Iscariot
January 29, 2016 at 5:15 pm
He apologised only because he was caught out. Now go back to your KKK meeting.
Jay Peterman
January 29, 2016 at 5:19 pm
Your whole comment, makes no fucking sense.
‘Real metal *doesnt need to or seek approval*’
You just judged him for apologising (mistake #1) us for caring and hold him what to say: ‘everyone to fuck themselves’
Turns out you’re not very metal at all then either.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Tommy Davis
January 29, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Yes, real metal people wear corpse paint in their profile photos.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 29, 2016 at 6:18 pm
I am not judgin him, I’m judging you peons.
“It is so trendy to be tough and hardcore, but not offensive in any manner. I’m gonna go hug a black person under a rainbow and then everyone will know I’m cool and I’ll get all the babes.”←that’s you.
Tommy Davis
January 29, 2016 at 6:33 pm
Oh, we get it. We are totally judging you too.
Janeia Krueger
January 29, 2016 at 9:37 pm
He also lied about it and he actually didn’t apologize he tried to downplay it until fans and other bands pulled up his bullshit and more videos of him saying more dumb shit.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 29, 2016 at 11:44 pm
He shouldn’t apologise. You kids don’t deserve it. If you don’t like “racism” I suggest you move to another planet.
Nick Bantjes
January 30, 2016 at 12:15 am
So many butthurt keyboard secular humanists.
James Murphy
January 30, 2016 at 12:40 am
Cunt =/= cult
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 1:23 am
Now this is just my opinion, but metal should be anti-human.
Matt Dasher
January 30, 2016 at 2:18 am
He gave an explanation, not an apology and that’s why people are so up in arms about it.
And, “secular humanism?” Really? That’s an insult? Metal has always been anti-clerical and opposed unthinking devotion to dogma. How the fuck is that an insult?
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 2:21 am
Humanism is the religion of taking it up the ass from less evolved humanoids. Europe has been humanist, and just look what is happening there.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 3:48 am
Hey Amanda! “It is so trendy to be tough and hardcore, I’m gonna go punch some hippies in the face and tell everyone how much I hate the world and generally be a negative pain in the arse unpleasant person to be around and everyone will know I’m more cool and way more kvlt then them. My metals more metal than your metal, wah wah wah” ←you
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 3:53 am
That is pretty accurate, Kate. In fact I believe that is how the whole extreme scene started out actually. If negativity isn’t your thing, may I suggest pop music?
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 3:58 am
Yeah coz power metal is like SO negative.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 4:01 am
And no, to me metal isn’t about negativity and anger. To me it is strength and passion more than it is either of those things. People who don’t listen to metal think its about negativity. Metal doesn’t make me feel negative, its makes me feel positive, or why would I listen to it? I’m not a masochist.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 4:06 am
Also, yes, I WOULD rather be a “social justice warrior” over a spineless coward bigot any day. Coz warriors are totally metal.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 4:09 am
Exactly, people can feel how they want about music. Artists can portray whayever message they want. It can be positive or it can be negative or even racist. When people WHINE about an artists message they are just showing how lame they are. And I don’t get why people care so much about band members’ personal beliefs anyway.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 4:19 am
They don’t care about one mans personal beliefs, they care about racism, wherever it may come from. Sure, Phil has the right to state his opinion (hate speech is not free speech mind you), but others also have the same right to tell Phil they don’t agree with that opinion. Someone disagreeing with you does not make them “butthurt”. And you know if Phil doesn’t want to be called a racist he shouldn’t be racist. He made his bed, he can lie in it. You don’t get to be an arsehole and expect no consequences.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 4:29 am
How is hate speech not free speech? I recommend you rethink that one.
This is not about consequences. This is about sensitive people reacting stupidly and predictably. I suspect it’s a publicity stunt.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 4:39 am
Yes, correct. “Hate Speech”, as in the dictionary definition, the illegal kind: “Speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits.”
Not hate speech as in I hate onions and child molesters and the colour red.
If hate speech were free speech it would be legal to insite violence. But its not. Thank god. Rethinking that? No thanks.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 30, 2016 at 4:52 am
Why would you support a law like that, knowing that definition? It is a violation of rights (and also impossible) to restrict and control people’s speech and thoughts.
And I am afraid IT MUST be legal to incite violence. We could never declare war and the military couldn’t work if it wasn’t.
“Shoot em in the face, shoot em in the face, hua!”, “Blood! Blood! Blood makes the green grass grow First Sergeant.”
Brian O'Blivion
January 30, 2016 at 5:51 am
amanda, let me put it real simple for you: you’re a fucking idiot.
Brian O'Blivion
January 30, 2016 at 5:57 am
and fuck you for attempting to normalize your racist bullshit to the degree that you think you deserve to inherit the earth as such a bigoted piece of filth. you are scum.
Kate Ward
January 30, 2016 at 6:00 am
Yeah nah War 👎
Again, no thanks.
Martyn Evans
January 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm
Well said! Metal is about embracing individuality without giving a fuck, racism/discrimination has no place!!!
Jamie Deschenes
January 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm
The fucking guy has a chin beard. Enough said. I like Cowboys from Hell and VDOP, but Phil is a burned out junkie and has been for a long time. Everything after those two records, including and especially side projects/other bands, is total jock/bro buttrock garbage. Let this guy continue to fade away. Nobody with a brain gives a fuck about what he says or does, he has no influence.
Tony Avila
January 29, 2016 at 4:33 pm
High five!!!
Adrian Felipe Olaya A
January 29, 2016 at 4:32 pm
el tipo es un idiota, mejor que se vuelva neo-nazi y que se marche de las filas del metal, de todas formas ya esta acabado ni canta bien hoy día.. buen articulo (Y)
Ryan Jervis
January 29, 2016 at 4:31 pm
I gess that’s it for slayer moterhead and every metal heads fav movie mad max
Ann Arkey
January 29, 2016 at 4:31 pm
THANK YOU m/
Adrian
January 29, 2016 at 4:25 pm
el tipo debería volverse neo-nazi igual ya esta acabado, ya ni canta bien , en vez de seguir con el metal y pretender meter esa mierda de “poder blanco” en el metal es un insulto ya que nunca tubo nada que ver con esos idiotas calvos de mierda, ademas la raíces musicales del metal surgieron del blues de los guetos negros en los 50s, quizás un poco antes.. total apoyo a este articulo ! lml
Matthias Iscariot
January 29, 2016 at 4:25 pm
I’ve never liked Anselmo or the other fuckwits in Pantera. It’s been obvious that they’re a pack of redneck racist pieces of shit thanks to their good ‘ol Texas boys shtick.
Brennan Cooling
January 29, 2016 at 5:03 pm
Oh yes rednecks and Texas is soo soo racist. Why was there a Harlem? A south side of Chicago? West Baltimore and a west side of philly? Why did slavery not end in 4 union states till the 1870s and the union port of new Orleans? Since the wy totally just ended segregation right after? There wasn’t a white flight there’s not gentrification to kick out the poor today also the state of Michigan totally cared about flint right?
Saul Chavez
January 29, 2016 at 5:53 pm
Phil is actually from NOLA. which is lame because he’s hooked in with the metal I like best.
even if it was a really dumb joke he should have fucking known better
Tim Shrake
January 30, 2016 at 3:42 am
Being southern is enough to label you a racist now. Especially if anyone is wearing a cowboy hat. If there’s a cowboy hat, its a wrap. The professional victims will have their pound of flesh.
Robert Rios
January 29, 2016 at 4:24 pm
Racism is equivalent to religion…a bunch brainwashed sheep
Bernardo Wicab
January 29, 2016 at 4:23 pm
oh for fuck sakes… i sieg heil everybody i know and i’m brown. dont be idiots yourselves either. political correctness shouldn’t be part of metal neither.
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:08 pm
Its not anyone elses problem that you’re apathetic.
Ross Xander Diprose
January 30, 2016 at 1:07 am
If you wanna be a cock gobbler, that’s your choice. Don’t bring everyone else down to your shitty standards of living.
Kyle Bunkin
January 30, 2016 at 1:11 am
But why?
Elizabeth Teague
January 30, 2016 at 5:23 am
not saluting is not political
correctness. saluting is just fucking ignorant and uncompassionate.
Bernard Sierakowski
January 30, 2016 at 7:14 am
Fuck that shit dude. High five or classic hand shake is realy easy.
Bernardo Wicab
January 30, 2016 at 11:10 am
fuck all of you pussies. if you cant see the difference between a joke and the real problem then all of yous are bunch of PC faggots
Bernardo Wicab
January 30, 2016 at 11:10 am
Kyle Bunkin because its funny?
Bernardo Wicab
January 30, 2016 at 11:11 am
Ross Xander Diprose hahaha chill out rossy, i’m not making you do something you dont want to am i?
Taylor Travis
January 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
WP already listened to shitty metal bands anyways. like Pantera. White wine sucks, grapes are for the Olive Garden,
cue some fools to try to get semantical about what was said. Everyone makes verbal
mistakes, but it’s all about Intention.
F that wonderchucky Pantera singer and fuck any confederate cowboys that are stepping up to the internet to make apologies or excuses for him.
Benton Smith
January 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Oooh….a white power band…..fucking idiots….I guess the “v” in cvlt stands for vagina.
Arneus Ogeath
January 29, 2016 at 4:31 pm
and this is supposed to mean what exactly?
Benton Smith
January 29, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Self explanatory, I thought.
Benton Smith
January 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Fucking idiots being the poor little internet experts that had their lives so viciously violated by bad gallows humor. Cry me a fucking river.
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm
#keyboardwarrior
Benton Smith
January 29, 2016 at 5:01 pm
Dude has been a friend of mine for 30 years…#fuckyourkeyboardwarriorass
Erwan Quéré
January 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Nothing but RIGHT !
Daniel Lewis Neal
January 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Is this the same way you react to photos of Sid vicious in a swastika shirt? Or Lemmy, he collected NS regalia. I hope you’re also anti communist. I smell a complete troll just to get a reaction out of the rest of us who are bored with everything enough to care about this stupid shit. Fuck your poser blog. If you are guilty of being white you deserve to go live in the third world or go use your posing as anti racist in extremely tense racial climates like south africa. Why am I even following such a false page. I don’t need this shit to find out about good music. More often than not you make me want to ignore bands I see on your site. Ugh
Edgar Santiago
January 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm
To Katon D. Pena does not like this… :v
Rachel Riley
January 29, 2016 at 4:13 pm
And yes, these views are considered extreme. All you have to do is pay attention to the extreme backlash these views cause among people who will dismiss them without even considering the arguments behind them. Yes, I know, these view should NEVER be considered. EVER! My point exactly.
Louis-Blaise Dumais-Levesque
January 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm
Well said!
Anjuli Arry
January 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm
‘We decided that we would ignore all music with a racist and sexist agenda’ funny cause I remember a piece you published about Skrewdriver and clearly remember a picture of the audience doing the nazi salute so… I think this whole Phil thing hit you on a personal level, maybe your kid’s first words were ‘southern trendkill’ and you just can’t deal with it. Next time you have some sort of beef with an artist, do say so and stop shielding your libel with your love for music. Cheers.
Euan James McKenzie
January 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm
I love the irony that all the racist/fascist metal heads keep saying that if you complain about Phils behaviour (or racist behaviour in general, you are somehow “whiny” or a “crybaby” when the reality is that they are the biggest crybabies of all, whining about their precious freedom of speech being eroded.
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Their freedom of speech isn’t being eroded, that’s the thing. It’s just that they’re being called out as the bigoted shitlords they are, and they don’t like it…
Jason Brown
January 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm
Saying “I can loudly shout my opinion and no one’s allowed to criticize me for it” is not supporting freedom of speech
Amy Louise
January 30, 2016 at 2:00 am
I do find that hilarious. Freedom of speech also means I have the right to criticise you for the twattery that comes out of your mouth. 😂
Matt Carrick
January 30, 2016 at 9:26 am
As others have pointed out, freedom of speech means that Anselmo can’t get arrested for what he said. It doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t or shouldn’t tell him he’s an asshole.
Vanni Fabbri
January 30, 2016 at 8:29 pm
freedom of speech… how could fascists (who actually want to deny freedom of speech) whine about their own freedom of speech?? they don’t deserve any.
Manuel Hernandez
January 29, 2016 at 4:09 pm
I’ve never liked Anselmo or Pantera. Anselmo has always been a jackass, always saying stupid shit. Everyone commenting that we all are making a big deal about this have obviously never been affected by racism. Racism is still going on so it is not an exaggeration being sensitive to comments made Anselmo and others.
Johnny Blade
January 29, 2016 at 4:05 pm
The king of bro rock and meat heads
Robb Age
January 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm
He went on that same rant in the nineties. I’m glad people are now more willing to collectively tell him to fuck off.
Belair Rad
January 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Fuck Phil in general. FUCK NAZIS as a rule. FUCK em all your death
Patrick Rogers
January 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm
WHITE POWDER NOT POWER
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
Well fucking said, Robb Flynn. Fuck racism, and fuck racists.
Rachel Riley
January 29, 2016 at 4:00 pm
How can CVLT Nation now cover any Black Metal without sounding like extreme hypocrites?
Tristan Davies
January 29, 2016 at 4:12 pm
In the same way you can be anti-capitalism and still listening to the odd pop song I guess
Rachel Riley
January 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Except CLVT Nation doesn’t just cover the odd Black Metal artist. It is one of the main genres they cover.
Arneus Ogeath
January 29, 2016 at 4:38 pm
they can because not all black metal bands are racist idiots? There is no controversy in saying that a type of human is musically more interesting, and in saying that that superiority is not bound by race. Yes Black Metal promotes the idea that men are not created equal. But goddamn open your eyes to amazing people born by all the races.
Rachel Riley
January 29, 2016 at 7:09 pm
I was never saying that I agreed with Anselmo. I was just pointing out the fact that CVLT Nation is not as extreme or welcoming to dissenting opinions as they claim to be.
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Do you mean to say that black metal is inherently racist? I’m not really getting your point. I’ve never seen them cover NSBM bands.
Rachel Riley
January 29, 2016 at 10:47 pm
I would say that by modern and apparently CVLT Nation’s standards, the ideologies expressed by many of the original Black Metal bands would be considered racist.
Tony Bambony
January 29, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Everyone jumping down his throat. I personally don’t agree with referencing Nazis. But objectively speaking, why is it wrong for a white guy to be proud of being white? Any other culture stands up and is proud of who they are, black power, Muslim, natives, etc people are like k cool. There has been many black entertainers who say they only hire black people or speak to blacks. Nobody bats an eye.
Just a view from the other side of the coin. We have become a society of witch hunters. Someone voices an opinion, WITCH HUNT!!!. Where growing up 80s, 90s if you knew someone with different views you were like k, that’s just them and moved on. Now it’s witch hunts everywhere on social media
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 4:14 pm
“White Power” has specific, racist connotations. Personally, I find it hard to understand being “proud” about the colour of your skin. You can be proud of a culture, yes. But that centres on the actions and achievements of that culture. And “white power” achievements are, specifically, centuries of exploitation and slavery.
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 4:33 pm
No, in the 80s & 90s people weren’t just ‘k’ & moved on.
Punks & metal heads would FIGHT skinheads & racist fucks who showed up to gigs. It’s become more tolerated in the last 15 years than it ever was before.
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Also, when you are part of a marginalized group who is not included in the ‘mainstream’, yes you will hire your own or contribute to your own community first.
Tony Bambony
January 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Metal head, punks, skinheads weren’t about racism. Punkts notoriously spit on bands to show their support, skinheads were just major pricks in the pits, metal heads liked to brawl. They picked a side and battled it out. We haven’t really become more tolerant, still witch hunt just less brawling
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:45 pm
With any negative connotation omitted, there would be nothing wrong with taking pride in anything you indentify yourself with (I cannot fathom how something you were just “born with” makes you proud, but a la), but being inbred trailerpark-trash wouldn’t be my first choice if I could pick something to wear as a badge of office..
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 5:05 pm
Well Tony, in LA/So. Cal where I grew up, there were issues of racists coming to shows (especially in Orange County) & you’d have metal heads, punks & crusties beating the shit out of them. It used to be a badge of honor to kick those asshole out of the scene but now it’s ‘why can’t people take a joke?’ ‘it’s only music, who cares? ‘
Jay Bentley
January 29, 2016 at 3:57 pm
so phil loses some followers and probably gains a couple, but the bottom line here is simple, won’t be tolerated and therefore “never supported in any way or form”, which i applaud. that’s what happens. choose your own adventure from this point forward.
Joshua Goodloe
January 29, 2016 at 3:54 pm
I love deep dramatic pauses. “Guys this means a lot to me, so I’m going to show you by acting in prepared like I’m thinking really hard”
Cameron Crichton
January 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm
keep flogging that dead horse, you’re getting 100 times more likes and shares than usual. I sense a follow up article, maybe even a mini-series.
Keyser Söze
January 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Go jerkoff to a skrewdriver record you racist fucks. Keep racism OUT of metal/punk/hardcore.
Manuel Danger
January 29, 2016 at 3:52 pm
Cvlt. Best statement. Fuck racism! Regards from Germany.
Manuel Danger
January 29, 2016 at 3:52 pm
Cvlt. Best statement. Fuck racism! Best regards from Germany.
Paolo Schiattarella
January 29, 2016 at 3:52 pm
I AGREE!
Vos Lusiusson
January 29, 2016 at 3:51 pm
Is it wrong to think he actually did mean it as a joke, whilst being far to drunk? Not meaning that I am going to forget about this, but I am expecting a decent apology from him. I hate nazism & racism, especially when it comes to metal. I am able to unsee it once it comes to the musical product, but I would boycot the artist by not seeing them live or buying their shit. Then again, I am dissapointed Phil… Deeply dissapointed…
Daniel Novet
January 29, 2016 at 4:06 pm
He said outright that there will be no apologies
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 4:09 pm
It doesn’t matter how shitfaced I was, I would never make a “joke” like that…
Vos Lusiusson
January 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm
Daniel Novet hmm… dissapointing
Louis Sypher
January 29, 2016 at 3:51 pm
Well that isn’t very Cvlt of you “CVLT” nation, I guess your saying fuck NSBM too. I mean why the fuck does this organization give two shits about pantera or phil Anselmo? You lose your fucking CVLT card you posers. Change your name to something PC! you guys don’t even really support that much black metal in general you mostly post other genres of metal, so idk where you even get off calling yourselves that.
Errol West
January 29, 2016 at 4:15 pm
thats because most blackmetal fans are insufferable morons
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Much kvlt, such racism. As if “kvlt/cvlt” equals racism. Do you have to be a “tr00 melankoliKKK odal-nazi” to appreciate “”””true”””” black metal? If so; fuck that dogmatic shit. Ultra-autism detected.
Tom Currie
January 29, 2016 at 4:24 pm
Tjalling Jn nah, autistic folk tend to not give a shit what colour people are. Racism is just the Ill-begotten child of ignorance and stupidity.
Evan Vice Gripp Brysman
January 29, 2016 at 4:25 pm
Hey face-painted commentor – shut THEE fuck up. Kthnx.
Matthias Iscariot
January 29, 2016 at 4:26 pm
Why bother with NSBM? It’s shit music written by socially inadequate low achievers.
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:27 pm
Tom Currie; true, hence the prefix “ultra” 😛
Arneus Ogeath
January 29, 2016 at 4:28 pm
well I for one say fuck NSBM! and I´ve been promoting BM for 15+ years so yeah, Louis Sypher fuck you and your racist buddies
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:29 pm
There is actually some good NSBM out there, but there’s lots of garbage. I listen to Forest and Branikald pretty often, but only the nature-oriented albums. The Mein Kampfy stuff isn’t good to begin with, let alone the cheap NS-chants that litter the lyrics.
Tom Currie
January 29, 2016 at 4:32 pm
Tjalling Jn Don’t make excuses for them. 😉 They aren’t disabled, they are literally ignorant and stupid. Both of these things can be sorted with a bit of worldly knowledge. Autism is an illness, not a choice.
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm
I am not making excuses for racists. And the “ultra-autism” thing was a jest. I know it is a mental condition, and I know there are throngs of autistic people with far superior intelligence compared to the bigots we are discussing.
Ian Hardacre
January 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
I’ll take my black metal without the gross racist ideologies please.
Jamie Robles
January 29, 2016 at 5:14 pm
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 5:37 pm
Jamie Robles: Gold! 😛
Andrew Ross Maxwell
January 29, 2016 at 5:57 pm
This just in: not being racist doesn’t make you not CVLT. Sooooo many walkers think racism and nazism are trve when in fact, the last thing nazis would have let you do is play fucking metal music in corpse paint
Andrew Ross Maxwell
January 29, 2016 at 5:57 pm
Metal = freedom
Racism =/= freedom
Ergo
Racism =/= metal
Louis Sypher
January 29, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Arneus if you have been promoting bm for 15 years then you should know that there are some decent NS bands out there, regardless of their political views, I’m not saying that I am NS myself, I am however open minded enough to listen to NS bands. People tend to try and make something out of nothing, this artical is a prime example of that.
Louis Sypher
January 29, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Tjalling No KVLT doesn’t imply racism, what isn’t KVLT is complaining about pathetic bullshit that has to do with main stream shitty bands. if phil anselmo is a racist woopidy doo dah day if thats his personal stance go him, idk whats with all whiny little bitches crying about it.
Louis Sypher
January 29, 2016 at 6:50 pm
Errol sez the sheeple activist.
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 8:36 pm
The NS in NSBM specifically implies oppression and bigotry of the worst kind. So it can fuck right off.
Gary Edgar
January 30, 2016 at 3:53 am
Louis , read the definition of Cult , it has nothing to do with racism , or BM . Read a bit more before spouting off , I listen to Burzum , but happily acknowledge he’s a prick .
Louis Sypher
January 30, 2016 at 6:42 am
Gary lol, this is a high profile organization that uses the word Cvlt perhaps inadvertently attracting those who like extreme underground tunes, these people finding this are like me whom expect music that is of the most sick twisted shock and ‘untasteful’ kind only to find uber high profile bands and left wing -political'(nonesense)-the same bullshit that shit main stream websites are having a field day over. It’s just stupid and lame. Forgive me for calling them out. Yet Fuck any douch bags who use portrayal and dark grimness as an authority in misanthropic antihumanism known as black metal for their own musical and prohuman propaganda!!
Edvin Lxlx
January 30, 2016 at 9:46 am
Saying NSBM is a good genre is like saying Skrewdriver is a good punk band.
Layne Franks
January 30, 2016 at 11:12 am
Edvin Lxlx Skrewdriver is a good punk band. I’m not a Nazi by any means but I like NSBM and Skrewdriver
Knave Murdok
January 30, 2016 at 3:50 pm
Don’t cry so hard, mang, ur corpse paint is runnin’!
Vanni Fabbri
January 30, 2016 at 8:32 pm
nsbm is usually shit, appreciated only by nazis (it actually means ‘morons’) who tell themselves fairytales about how great those shitty bands are (though actually they aren’t).
Jeff Chord Van Voorhis
January 29, 2016 at 3:49 pm
Well said!
John de Haas
January 29, 2016 at 3:47 pm
F*kin’ Moron!
Ron Dante
January 29, 2016 at 3:47 pm
Lol…. Music is art. It can contain whatever message it wants. It doesn’t have to care what you think. As that is what art is…it’s supposed to stir your soul. It’s up to you how you take it. Music isn’t supposed to be a pop culture to satisfy everyone. We have created that however, for those who can’t handle the opinion of artists. Feel free to feel safe while you listen to One Direction.
Tara Vanflower
January 29, 2016 at 3:46 pm
Nikolai Pyke
Nikolai Pyke
January 29, 2016 at 3:49 pm
Man, I really hope he doesn’t run into Byron Davis, Howard Jones, Benji or Lajon in the not too distant future.
Ahkil Dukalion Estese
January 29, 2016 at 3:45 pm
#WhenWhiteArtistsUseBlackArtFormsToBeRacists
Anthony Johansen
January 29, 2016 at 3:45 pm
fuck yeah FUCK YEAH!
Chris Renner
January 29, 2016 at 3:44 pm
Has he ever actually been on record legitimately espousing racist views? Bad sense of humor and dumb “white pride” shit aside, I don’t think I’ve ever heard him actually talk shit on someone for their race.
Jay Peterman
January 29, 2016 at 4:28 pm
Well, yeh cause he’d get fuckin buried over it.
Wouldn’t even consider this ‘on the record’ but fuck, how much more do you need than a public WP cry and salute?
The finding of a Klan mask on his rider hoisted up a flagpole?
Chris Renner
January 29, 2016 at 4:32 pm
That would surprise the hell out of me, though I guess what the fuck do I know.
Dude says some tasteless shit, has no filter, and can definitely be an asshole, but really doesn’t seem maliciously racist.
Doing shit like this is still stupid and not welcome at shows.
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 4:49 pm
He’s been known to have these views for decades.
Chris Renner
January 29, 2016 at 4:50 pm
Guess I’m just too young to remember. Why I was asking about interviews or anything.
Ahkil Dukalion Estese
January 29, 2016 at 3:43 pm
#Respect
Nathan Post
January 29, 2016 at 3:42 pm
Oh hey, guys! What’s going on in this thread?
Andrew Robison
January 29, 2016 at 3:48 pm
👏👏👏
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 8:14 pm
This guy can fuck right off as well.
Antóin O Duiling
January 29, 2016 at 3:42 pm
Fucking hostheil
Janeia Krueger
January 29, 2016 at 3:39 pm
Bless you Cvlt Nation for this!
Ward Young
January 29, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Thank You. m/ not llll
La Fin Absolute Du Monde
January 29, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Something that I think you would enjoy. What it feels like to be a person of color in heavy music.
http://lafinabsolutedumonde.com/2016/01/29/the-only-darkie-in-the-room-when-the-nigger-jokes-come-out/
Filip Izdebski
January 29, 2016 at 3:38 pm
love phil for causing such shitstorm
Michael Dunn
January 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
Great piece, guys.
Tim Beckett
January 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
What a load of utter libertard bollocks.
You are in no position to judge other people’s art. Suddenly Pantera isn’t Metal now, fuck you.
Matthias Iscariot
January 29, 2016 at 4:29 pm
You’ve read the article. Cvlt Nation are quite happy to go without your patronage, based on your backwards and piss ignorant views. So go on, get out of here.
Tim Beckett
January 29, 2016 at 4:33 pm
Read 1984 dickwad.
Matias Candia
January 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm
Tim Beckett this isnt about pantera, its about phil anselmo being a bully.
Tim Beckett
January 29, 2016 at 4:38 pm
No its about speech control. Thought control.
Looks to me like the libertard reactionists are the bullies.
Cory Cairn
January 29, 2016 at 4:57 pm
lolzor You realize Orwell literally killed fascists and definitely didn’t give two shits about their freeze peach.
Raffaele Mosca
January 29, 2016 at 5:24 pm
Tim Beckett
Errol West
January 29, 2016 at 5:25 pm
freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequences you dipshit
Juan Tala Mera
January 29, 2016 at 7:12 pm
“I believe your kind should be exterminated but it’s just a thought and I have freedom of speech so keep supporting my band” …… That’s how your argument sounds
Andy Bullivent
January 29, 2016 at 7:21 pm
It’s not about speech control. Phil Anselmo is free to say ‘White Power’ whenever he likes, and I’m free to think that it’s embarrasing, disappointing and bigoted. Can’t believe this is the same guy who wrote ‘No Good (Attack the Radical)’.
Luis Mata
January 30, 2016 at 12:48 am
I’m in no position?? Who says that? Can you prove it? I can… ‘fuck you’.
Martin Remann
January 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
Hm, Anselmos mental state seems to be seriously damaged, maybe his earlier lifestyle has ruined his mind already. I really doubt this guy is a hardcore white power supporter. It’s just that i can’t take him serious anymore after this incident.
Zach Carson Macpherson
January 29, 2016 at 3:36 pm
Glad to see cult nation jumped on the bandwagon.
Dane Abernathy
January 29, 2016 at 3:35 pm
Well said
Courtney Kerzner
January 29, 2016 at 3:34 pm
Right on, Sean! Dude’s an ignorant meathead.
Desmond Reddick
January 29, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Hell yes!
Andi Mayer
January 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm
!!!!
Pablo Gonzalez
January 29, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Joke or not it was a very poor move. I would find it odd if he truly meant it considering Panteras lyrics and reputation but hell it certainly didnt help for one bit and Im known for not giving a fuck regarding comedy. Its still a fuck up.
Michael Keith Leon
January 29, 2016 at 3:28 pm
VULGAR DISPLAY OF BAD TASTE. PANTERA IS SHIT AND DOUCHEBAGS ARE LIKE FLYS TO THEM. FUCK YOU REDNECK SHITBAG. YOUR NOT EXTREME, ITS A EXCUSE TO CONTINUE BEING A FUCKING TOOL.
Andy Mathison
January 29, 2016 at 3:28 pm
Right on.
Dominik August Sikorski
January 29, 2016 at 3:28 pm
worthless opinions
Anonymous
January 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/a/ab/Pcprincipal.png/revision/latest?cb=20151101193358
Colin Charles
January 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm
Looks like Cvlt Nation is in dire need of the nearest college safe zone, so that they can play with crayons and have punch and cookies while they try to cope with their butthurt.
PC has no place in metal. Death to false PC metalheads. Let the based god forever reign in Hell.
Reilly Deacey
January 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Check out Robb from Machine Head’s response on the whole thing. I always had the feeling that Phil was a meatheaded bully and this has confirmed my suspicions
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
You know what for those of you racist bigoted folk using PC as a way to try and attack people get fucked. It means that instead of allowing our friends, families, lovers, coworkers, and neighbors get pounced on we speak up. It also means that you are whining incredibly loud. The very thing your whining about is whining. Well here is a lack of whining. We do to be a fuck about you or your small intellects in regards to how we are going to shape out world. And just because you are cowered in weakness at us reclaiming our power and WEILDING IT shows you for what you are. A bunch of lemon headed cowardly fucks who can not seem to live their lives in a way WE deem acceptable. We call the shots in this world. Your world of being fucks is over. Now shut the fuck up and move on.
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Tristan Davies what the fuck are you even talking about. White supremacist behavior has driven and dominated the power spectrum for well over five hundred years. Only on the past hundred years have we made it a point to question that. Do you think differently?
Fed Buk
January 29, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Damn dude your post made zero sense. I think you’re trying to defend racism or something. That’s all I really got.
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
Fed Buk you should slowly Reread the first sentence a few times but I will alter it just a bit.
Fed Buk
January 29, 2016 at 4:04 pm
Ok still lost. Guess I’m a ‘stoopid PC sjw’
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 4:13 pm
Fed Buk uhh no it’s in defense of being what idiots refer to as PC aka standing up for everyone.
Fed Buk
January 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Oh
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Fed Buk look at your messages we know each other
Fed Buk
January 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
Ohhh Its all coming together I think I actually might be a stoopid PC sjw
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
Fed Buk you still one badass mofo even if I am unclear and we are like Ahhh. It’s these moments that expand our knowing of each other and develop trust and fuck you’s against those people that would spit stupidity towards all of us for no reasons other than a lack of perspective.
Evan Vice Gripp Brysman
January 29, 2016 at 5:48 pm
Hey fucktard. You calling people on the internet cowards is funny coming from someone who looks like they would avoid throwing hands with a high school kid. The way you think is out dated. You are a neanderthal competing against a computer hacker. You are the virus that we will flush out the system. And hey if you really wanna prove you aint the pussy chicken shit cock smoker I believe you are, next time I tour or do a show in Portland (which Ive performed there before) come out & we can square up & run a fair one like men.
Sincerely, #TheBearJew.
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 5:50 pm
Evan Vice Gripp Brysman did you read any of the other commentary? I am also a Jew and this is very not a white power tirade.
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 5:52 pm
Evan Vice Gripp Brysman also additionally using homophobic speech to attack those that would attack us is pretty stupid.
Lee Masson
January 29, 2016 at 10:23 pm
Evan Vice Gripp Brysman just nerdishly picking up on the irony of the analogy. A neanderthal would out compete a computer hacker in the ‘real’ (natural) world. Just not in the fictional realm of computers (which only exists due to the combined efforts of millions of people over time). Sorry but just pisses me off people still use the neanderthal tag as a term for a degenerate. They were amazing humans most very probably greater than us 1 v 1! Their brains were bigger on average than modern humans. Our only advantage was cooperation in large social groups hence we have computers neanderthals didnt….we are also most likely what caused their demise 30,000 years or so ago. (Apologies for the rant im just passionate about rocks and science)
Nolan Vansson
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCBKzWg4WYo
Gregory MArch
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
There he is at it again.
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 3:29 pm
“but…but…muh black friends”
Being a racist doesn’t mean you think black-people are your kryptonite.
Racists are often duplicitous, intellectually incoherent, cowardly idiots who wither in the face of confrontation.
Gregory MArch
January 29, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Do you even know who that is ?
Gregory MArch
January 29, 2016 at 3:48 pm
You don’t so have no opinion.
Piotr Giełzak
January 29, 2016 at 3:58 pm
Ah no! Big bad racist Anselmo tries to suffocate this man! 😛
Tony Castro
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
Fuck yeah, ignorant does not equal extreme!
Cody James Tyler
January 29, 2016 at 3:24 pm
I don’t get why people are so butthurt about this. You probably don’t like Anselmo either way. #siegheilisntahatecrime
J Ihs Nada
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
Why aren’t you guys bending over for right wing politics? I know he’s done this exact thing at numerous Pantera concerts, but he was just kidding. I’m sick of you sjw pc robots using freedom of speech to condemn my use of freedom of speech. I don’t know how freedom works. Help. 😢
Janssen McCormick
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
I thought Pantera was shitty music for hillbillies BEFORE everyone knew he was a racist.
ᑭᒍᑎᙳᐊᑦ ᓂᐱᑎᓯᒪᔪᑦ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓂᒃ ᐲᖅᓯᓂᖅ
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
communist death camps totally okay tho
Eric Moore
January 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
Kevin Koch
January 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm
Who cares about this douchebag anyhow? Pantera sucks. Redneck bro metal.
Jenni Fu
January 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm
Ste
S Wyatt Houseman
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
Very well said, thank you!
Greg Nowak
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
TRIGGERED!!! I Need A Safe Space!!!!
Nick Tikki-Tavi
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
Imagine that – without the wisdom of Phil Anselmo no one would’ve known Red Red Wine is actually a Black Power song. A Black Black Power song, in fact.
#PhilAnselmo #whitepowergrapes
Ricardo Racines
January 29, 2016 at 3:19 pm
Well said! As a pantera fan, and a Hispanic man, this is just nauseating. For him to say that, is ignorant and disrespectful …
Dylan Martinez
January 29, 2016 at 3:18 pm
Keep that racist bullshit out of metal. we’re supposed to be a community that thrives on attracting people who want to express themselves and feel a sense of commradery with their fellow headbangers. Phil and his actions send one message: “black or brown? NOT FUCKING WELCOME” which is the most un-metal thing next to a duet with Taylor Swift. Save that shit for Vaarg and his loser Aryan fanclub. We let this shit slide in the 90s when Pantera ruled the world, now he’s a washed up old racist playing to 30 people. He’s right where he belongs, in obscurity.
Stephen Jones
January 29, 2016 at 3:51 pm
Well said mate.
Jody Lundy
January 29, 2016 at 3:54 pm
I’m about to start a Dylan fan club.
Eddie Klintecorn
January 29, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Dont hate on the T-Swizz bruh 😮
Richard Isak Abrams
January 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
Are you really this fucking retarded or are you trying to impress someone with your tolerance?
Helene Guilleminot
January 29, 2016 at 4:20 pm
<3
Ian Hardacre
January 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Tolerance isn’t about impressing anyone. It’s called being a decent human being.
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar
January 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Tolerance is about pretending to be a decent human being so all the bitches will want your cock. Meanwhile the tolerant metalhead puts on a tough front to attract said bitches. But he’s really nothing but a bitch himself.
Teagan Miller
January 29, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar You are probably fun at parties.
Brennan Cooling
January 29, 2016 at 4:49 pm
I don’t believe he met it , People who whole heartening like that wouldn’t retract it. Hate is just primordial hate is a instinct. People say there’s white supremecy there’s only green supremecy. Theoretically an idea of white power would be great, thousands of years of in fighting has been put aside one step closer to world peace but it doesn’t work that way. We as humans divide ourselves with enthicity, nationalism, regionalism, religion , secularism, class, and gender. Why producing hate creates unity anoust a group a common enemy. Also humans a naturally curious species uses organization like that to help know the world. But who benefits off this hate? The ones who rule and fool you.
Jody Lundy
January 29, 2016 at 5:39 pm
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar Wow you’re full of joy and happiness, aren’t you?
Dylan Martinez
January 29, 2016 at 5:41 pm
Gotta love Basic Black Metalheads. Some corpse paint here, some inverted crosses there, and voila, validation!
Chris Nieto
January 29, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Dylan Martinez I hope you are referring to Varg Vikirnes as the racist and not the band Varg which is yes a German Death Metal band but in no way are they racist. They are Wolves! Lol
Chris Nieto
January 29, 2016 at 8:01 pm
Brennan Cooling, that is a true understanding of human nature. I believe hate is inherent in man even excluding the idea of race. Superb observation.
Alun Beard
January 29, 2016 at 8:29 pm
Amanda Eurynomos Kizar this may come as a shock, but some people actually ARE decent human beings.
Chris Nieto
January 29, 2016 at 9:02 pm
Decent human being is an oxymoron. The other creatures of this world are the only true Metal things this world has. They have no hate they just fucking live so raw. Humans are the curse upon themselves the earth would be so much better without us.
Alun Beard
January 30, 2016 at 4:43 am
A rather nihilistic stance…
Maurise Stephens
January 30, 2016 at 4:57 am
Keep that pantera bullshit out of metal too. Pantera fans are so damn stupid, they got dimebag killed
David Kries
January 30, 2016 at 5:22 am
Related: Taylor swift has more metal in her than she gets credit for.
Todd A. Smith
January 30, 2016 at 5:52 am
“Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.”
Alex Steel
January 30, 2016 at 8:01 am
Chris Nieto So deep, lol.
Nyctibius Griseus
January 30, 2016 at 11:54 am
Todd A. Smith Seriously. Racists are the biggest cowards around because they’re scared of everyone who isn’t like them.
Shanon Dale Meisenheimer
January 30, 2016 at 10:57 pm
Gay
Dave Deth
January 30, 2016 at 11:04 pm
Brennan Cooling he ‘retracted’ his racism because he realizes that if he does so maybe he can keep his beliefs (in private) and still get that money from all of the merch and tours and shit
Brennan Cooling
January 31, 2016 at 6:15 am
Dave Deth….. You really think downs all of a sudden will be like we don’t want you on our tour now…… You really think most of the fans will be like this is horrible even though Seth Putnam was on the Great southern Trendkill.
Hayduke X
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Great article. I stand in solidarity with everything you wrote in this article. Racism has no place in metal because it has no place anywhere. Time for metal heads to take out the trash. You’ve made me a bigger fan of Cvlt Nation.
Ateon Torpeda
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Or rather ignore it. What do views have to do with anything. You got leftie thrash and neons black metal. Does it stop anyone from enjoying the music?
Joel Oriented
January 29, 2016 at 3:47 pm
Ignoring it means POC aren’t and don’t feel safe at metal shows. Fuck that and fuck turning a blind eye.
Ateon Torpeda
January 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
What’s poc? And would you turn blind eye to communists too?
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm
POC=person/people of color. & yes, it does matter when a POC sees apologists who say ‘what’s the big deal?’ or they can’t go to a show without feeling uncomfortable
Ateon Torpeda
January 30, 2016 at 4:01 am
Then poc must be really dumb to go to let’s say ad hominem show. I wouldn’t go to sutter kain show as I know exactly what would happen to me. Political correctness is powerful but will never censor the whole world, which is what it is 😉
Brian Alan
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Giorgio Kioussis
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
you’re all a bunch of sjw pussies. and I’m not even racist myself.
Brian O'Blivion
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
and yet you use “sjw” as a slur, just like every other numbskulled fuckwit on the internet
don’t lie
Giorgio Kioussis
January 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
it is a slur, because people is doing ze nazis as a joke for years, but since there’s tumblr and all the venomous political correctness around everything is forbidden.
Jean Michél Chevrette-Aire
January 29, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Yeah, of course. Bad tumblr letting racists not being racist anymore. What an ugly world we’re livin in.
Brian O'Blivion
January 29, 2016 at 4:07 pm
lol
José
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Thanks for this!
Christian Lee
January 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Anybody with half a clue knows that PHIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FUCKING RETARD. Vinnie and Darrell seemed like decent dudes, but PANTERA HAS BEEN DOUCHE METAL ALL ALONG.
Joe Cadrin
January 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
He’s been pulling his garbage for awhile. I like pantera but he’s a twat.
Piotr Giełzak
January 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Your a waste of breath cunt. Go home boy.
Christian Lee
January 29, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Lol. Sure, Piotr Pedo-Puss.
Joe Cadrin
January 30, 2016 at 5:44 am
Easy Christian, he’s deep.
Richard Isak Abrams
January 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Wow. You really got your tounges out to please.
Steve Smitan
January 29, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Cool story, blog
Indefatigable Golden Mustache
January 30, 2016 at 6:57 am
TL;DR
Molly Tanner
January 29, 2016 at 3:15 pm
Is it just me or has the word “racist” been thrown around so much these days that it’s utterly meaningless what’s next CVLT NATION? You guys going to start keyboard warrioring while screaming PROBLEMATIC at everything. And people wonder why metalgate exists, it’s because of oversensitive SJW PC shits like you chucklefucks who want to make issues out of non-issues. I wanted to like this page, I really did. but now I see that I was mistaken.
Dylan Martinez
January 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Bye Feleicia!
Joseph MacTàmhais
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
TIL screaming “White Power” and making the Nazi salute is a “non-issue.” You’re exactly what’s wrong with the scene. Congratulations.
Molly Tanner
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
at least I’m not a cuck :^)
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
It’s not just you – lots of other racist white people agree with you.
Lots of other white people think the biggest problem with racism, is that they might get called a racist…for being a fucking racist.
Anti-racism is legitimate – and the only problem with it, is that there isn’t enough of it. That it’s not militant enough. That it’s eclipsed by racism still.
Eman Alliv
January 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
Rafiq Abu Arz preach 🙏
Alberto De Lara Carrión
January 29, 2016 at 3:24 pm
“Buaaabuaaaaa people are getting called “racist” because they’re racist and I can’t stand that. Fookin SJW cucks m8″
Karl Schneider
January 29, 2016 at 4:04 pm
Nobody gives a fuck what pages you like, Molly. BTW, can you possibly cram any more bullshit buzzwords into your post? You sound like a right-winged parrot.
Tom Currie
January 29, 2016 at 4:27 pm
Can you still be a cuck if you’re single? What if a girl decided she was sick of dating a bigoted fuckwad and fucked a SJW? Would that SJW still be a cuck? Your logic has many holes.
KC Halimak
January 29, 2016 at 4:30 pm
Racism isn’t being ‘thrown around so much these days’. It’s that people are finally speak g up about issues that have existed for a long time.
Aidan Curran
January 29, 2016 at 5:39 pm
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/01/29/video-machine-heads-robb-flynn-responds-to-phil-anselmo-racism-accusations/
Aidan Curran
January 29, 2016 at 5:40 pm
Mohamed Amine Amine
January 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm
He often wear a DOOM Tshirt which is an anti-facistracist band af
I dont get it
Jake Williams
January 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm
Pussy liberals ruin so many peoples reps over shit that’s not even a big deal. Grow a pair already.
Dylan Martinez
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Wow, so much white privilege its foaming out of your mouth. Every orifice of your body is oozing ignorance. Brutal.
Miguel Mun
January 29, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Dude, you keep whining on every fucking metal page. Get a fucking job you basement dwelling loser.
Justin Poff
January 29, 2016 at 3:35 pm
Seriously, fuck you.
Bec Bjoykgdit
January 29, 2016 at 8:50 pm
He ruined his own reputation by behaving badly in public. DUH. Aren’t you right wingers always crapping on about taking personal responsibility? LOL
Jake Williams
January 29, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Dylan Martinez haha so much white guilt
Jake Williams
January 29, 2016 at 8:52 pm
Miguel Mun get a green card first.
Kevin Chan
January 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm
Sam Olson
January 29, 2016 at 3:10 pm
Preach.
Daniel Godoy Vargas
January 29, 2016 at 3:10 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVKE674oYI
Jarod Michael Grefrath
January 29, 2016 at 3:10 pm
You’ve totally missed the joke. Phil is as racist as Mother Theresa. You morons.
Jarod Michael Grefrath
January 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm
I’m drinking white wine right now. White power! Love me some white wine!
Chris High
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
You’re the moron if you buy that excuse.
Joseph MacTàmhais
January 29, 2016 at 3:18 pm
Theresa was a piece of shit too, though. Poor analogy.
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 3:20 pm
And she was a really racist piece of shit.
Jarod Michael Grefrath
January 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm
Chris High, not a single person in the respected music industry would work with the man if he was an open racist. You all want him to be a racist to fit your hate agenda. Fuck you.
Chris High
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
Wrong on both accounts. I find the whole situation funny and unsurprising.
Jarod Michael Grefrath
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
Chris High, Philcore!
Chris High
January 29, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Don’t know what that means
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 3:31 pm
He is a racist, clearly – and people still work with him. Your math is idiotic. Which isn’t surprising given the slurry of idiocy from you on this thread.
Jarod Michael Grefrath
January 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Rafiq Abu Arz, you are nuts.
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 5:24 pm
Nah Jarod. You’re an asshole.
Deane Pilkington
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Phil really dug himself a hole on this one. It may be a claim of a ‘joke gone wrong’ (he claims it was a reference to drinking white wine that night) but it looks really really bad and is not welcome. I read the whole article and agree that metal is for ALL THE PEOPLE and this site is a fantastic resource! Thanks for all you do for the community and keep it up!
Matheus Cruz
January 29, 2016 at 3:34 pm
I haven’t seen anyone mentioning Brujeria and their anti-white lyrics for example. But that’s none of my business…
Jon Madden
January 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
There’s nothing as metal as white wine.
Deane Pilkington
January 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
fair play, get CVLT to do a bit on it then.
Enno Evers
January 29, 2016 at 4:18 pm
I see where you’re coming from, but I spot a difference, since Brujeria was an obvious image band, they play these mexican druglord roles. And it’s not equal to the role let’s say some black metallers plays on stage and in interviews, since that image is still related to the same person. In Brujeria, everyone knows that Chapo Gringo Gonzalez or whatever they named themselves is obviously Dino Cazares. Accusing them of racism would be like accusing Edward Norton of being a racist because of what he’s done in American History X.
Deane Pilkington
January 29, 2016 at 4:22 pm
looks like CVLT Nation should do a piece to discuss these topics in a more granular way, pretty relevant to the community, i know I would read/share!!
Jon Kropiwiec
January 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm
Funny thing is there was no white wine back stage. It was lemon flavored Vodka
Deane Pilkington
January 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm
and Becks beer
El Titus
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Nazi scum fuck off
Magic Bullet Records
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Baaaaaaacked! Love, solidarity, and headbanging for all melanin levels.
Janeia Krueger
January 29, 2016 at 3:40 pm
I never heard of your label but you earned a fucking like from me!
Jorge Pardo
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Fuck off nazis
Hearne Morris
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
SOMEBODY CALL THE HUFF POST !!! BE EXTREME AS YOU ARE THAUGHT IN SCHOOL AND PLEASE KEEP REPEATING THE LAME SENTENCE “I HATE EVERYONE EQUALLY” . And by The way the roman salute is a roman salute and you know nothing about history nor politics beside what you heard in class or on TV.
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 3:14 pm
He was pretending to be a white-power roman soldier…you’re a genius.
Roddy Anderson
January 29, 2016 at 3:52 pm
We’re yu thaught abuot teh Roamin saloot n shcool?
Jim Murphy
January 29, 2016 at 4:09 pm
Phil the Roman Wine connoisseur
Hearne Morris
January 30, 2016 at 2:59 am
No he wasn’t, stil he had been saying this the same things for years and people like you advocating for politically correctness in metal make me sick. Also as aforementioned you know nothing about politics and still speak.
Shane Kuzniar
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Stop all the Phil hate this is the band living color if this guy was such a racist why bother posing for this pic, some of you people get way to butt hurt over pointless shit
Jónas Haux
January 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm
It doesn’t really work this way.
I see sexist men with women all the time.
Piotr Giełzak
January 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm
I can’t sand the bulsheet flowing through web. Everyone who knows Phill, theese days will understand. Fuck this shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuDx6_PLIVk
suck it!
Joseph MacTàmhais
January 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm
Phil is a colossal piece of shit. He literally fucking yelled “White Power” and has done so countless times in the past. Fuck your racist apologeticism. People can still be racist and be in photos with another race. Ever heard the “I’m not X, I have plenty of Y friends” rhetoric? Or “It’s okay, they’re some of the good ones!”?
Ethan Broe Dameron
January 29, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Pantera is metal for people who don’t like metal. Phil sucks balls!
B Rian Kaiju Beyond
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Piotr Giełzak hey dipshit. Minor threat has said if your an ignorant fuck using that song to defend things stop.
Jesse Sandschaper
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Im pretty sure minor threat didn’t write that song to excuse the behavior of Nazi sympathizes.
Sean Michael Tobin
January 29, 2016 at 3:21 pm
Haha nah dude is a piece of shit for sure
Jon C Terrones
January 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
He doesn’t look nearly as jovial as everyone else.
Alexis Smay
January 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
Fuck you you racist apologist Pantera is for fucking hillbillies anyway
Alexis Smay
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
This just in: edgy white guy likes shit metal
Ben Versluis
January 29, 2016 at 3:23 pm
Butthurt pantera fans ITT
Nick Gorogianis
January 29, 2016 at 3:24 pm
It’s hilarious when people say they “know” Phil Anselmo because they hung out at a show once or drank a beer together. Anselmo is finally getting the backlash he deserves for years of pathetic actions.
Ben Versluis
January 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Also stop using Guilty of Being White to justify your racial pride…it’s not about that – Ian MacKaye has gone on the record as to what it’s about
Marcus Benamati
January 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm
Ryan Los really?
Ethan Broe Dameron
January 29, 2016 at 3:29 pm
People do Asian Power?!
Joseph MacTàmhais
January 29, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Ethan Broe Dameron We call them “strawmen.”
Janeia Krueger
January 29, 2016 at 3:41 pm
That doesn’t mean shit he’s on video from a show in 95 calling it a proud white event. He gets no pass
Omar Mugica
January 29, 2016 at 3:44 pm
Alexis Smay Im not a pantera fan, but saying its for hillbillies as a negative is lame. Imagine saying that about any music for any other lower class people doink
Erick YallQeada Winters
January 29, 2016 at 3:48 pm
Joseph MacTàmhais white pride is not racism.
Maddie Marshall
January 29, 2016 at 3:48 pm
A picture doesn’t excuse his actions.
Piotr Giełzak
January 29, 2016 at 3:54 pm
Minor Threat made this song to make people think, about Racism, and about wroong understanding of it. Hate all You want. It is pointless in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_63VvlWuCLs
Ben Versluis
January 29, 2016 at 3:55 pm
Erick YallQeada Winters So it’s a coincidence that people that rep white pride are racist? Your argument is shit
Rob Newland
January 29, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Ask Living Colour about what their thoughts are on the whole “white power/sieg heil” matter before you presume to think they wouldn’t want to kick his teeth in over this.
Johnny Blade
January 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Phil is a meat head and the King of bro rock
Bunch of flat bill baseball hat frat boys looking rough and being meatheads
Every band that guy has been in sucks esp Pantera
EHG are the same way
I met them backstage years ago and every other word was the n word and they were drawing shit on a chalkboard with a hanging body
Bunch of backwards Louisiana meat heads
Aidan Curran
January 29, 2016 at 4:09 pm
Lauren Gargano
January 29, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Piotr Giełzak I don’t think you understand the meaning of the song. Maybe you need a privilege check?
Mike Bezalel
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Oh, you’re a racist? We are dreadfully sorry about your tiny penis.
Nathan Fredericks
January 29, 2016 at 3:06 pm
https://youtu.be/fCBKzWg4WYo
Jean Carlo Lobo Mayen
January 29, 2016 at 3:05 pm
He thinks he looks “badass” lol cute
Lu von Hailstyle
January 29, 2016 at 3:05 pm
sorry so sorry!!!!!!!!!!!
Victor Borel
January 29, 2016 at 3:05 pm
The worst part is the fanbase playing it down… Fucking Idiots, Anselmo is an absolute moron. Deal with it.
Kellie Burton
January 29, 2016 at 3:07 pm
Thank you.
Nnamdi Bawsism
January 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
That’s the thing. It’s more stupid that it is racist, even. If this guy’s verbal diarrhea hits the wrong person, they might try to succeed where Phil’s heroin overdose failed
Ian Hardacre
January 29, 2016 at 5:04 pm
It upsets me. I love his music, but the guy is clearly a moron, and I won’t make apologies for him.
Tim Shrake
January 30, 2016 at 3:25 am
^
Exactly. No excuses.
I gave up on a killer drummer recently because he was racist. I’ve known the dude since highschool. Killer hands… but then he’d say some shit and all I could think about was the inevitable online blowup and shitstorm when he opens his mouth in public. I just watched a friend in NJ’s band quite literally evaporate after some dude got stomped at their show. A new album, a world tour… CANCELLED.
So I decided to skip the bullshit entirely.
Mith Ridates
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
https://youtu.be/fCBKzWg4WYo
Samuel Goff
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Thank you For not tolerating this stupid, asinine, redneck behavior.
Mith Ridates
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
thank you, CVLT Nation.
Jesse Sandschaper
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Racism is a boring traditional ideology, nothing extreme about it.
Øystein Albrektsson
January 29, 2016 at 4:24 pm
Its so boring and so traditional that its extreme.
Brennan Cooling
January 29, 2016 at 4:40 pm
It’s primordial. It’s a tatic to strengthen your group because then you got a common goal. White power would be a great thing meaning all people of European decent have set there difrences aside that’s one set closer to world peace. However there isn’t a whole “White supremecy” the green supremecy realizes its easier to exploit people when dived….. There’s basic ethnics , nationalism ,regionalism ,religion ,secularism, classism. They say hates learned no its a thing humans can’t help and the ones who rule and fool us now how to exploit it.
Anwar Cato
January 29, 2016 at 4:51 pm
^sorry dude but that made absolutely no sense at all.
Jesse Sandschaper
January 29, 2016 at 4:52 pm
^^which is why I didn’t reply, needs editing.
Andrew Ross Maxwell
January 29, 2016 at 5:55 pm
Amen Jesse
Loki Freign
January 29, 2016 at 6:05 pm
somehow I doubt any amount of editing is going to wring some sense out of “the green supremacy”
Jordan Reyes
January 29, 2016 at 6:32 pm
I think we’re past the point of trying to embrace being primordial, personally, much as I’d love to go back to not having internet or penicillin.
Pajaros En la Cabeza
January 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm
excelente!! (y)
Michel Leroy
January 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm
so AGREE!
Sebastian Andrés
January 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
God damn yes
Jason Wagner
January 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
Hen Renken
January 29, 2016 at 3:01 pm
glad to hear! keep on!
Jeffery McCarthy
January 29, 2016 at 3:01 pm
#PussyFoot PA. its not ok ever. either hate everyone or no one. (hint i hate everyone equally do it) http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/01/29/video-machine-heads-robb-flynn-responds-to-phil-anselmo-racism-accusations/
Billy Von Kraut
January 29, 2016 at 3:01 pm
so has the world come to a point where something done in jest automatically labels as racist? if so, I am the most racist motherfucker out there. a joke is a joke.
Hen Renken
January 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
very funny. not.
Justin Wilson
January 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
how exactly is doing skinhead symbolism and screaming white power in jest
Justin Wilson
January 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm
you literally have a swastika profile picture lol
William Armstrong
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Dude he was giving that same white power/white trash speech the last time I saw Panteta in 94. I walked outta that show, trust me, he’s not joking.
Kavan Cronin
January 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
not to mention his claims of it being a joke have been quickly disproven
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/01/29/video-machine-heads-robb-flynn-responds-to-phil-anselmo-racism-accusations/
Jeffery McCarthy
January 29, 2016 at 3:05 pm
now the time to own up to it
Boris Stab
January 29, 2016 at 3:05 pm
so your being a racist most of the time “ironicaly” ?
Ryan Pobar
January 29, 2016 at 3:06 pm
when was yelling white power and doing the nazi salute with a straight face ever considered humorous? pls do point out the punchline every other race seems to be missing…
Jeffery McCarthy
January 29, 2016 at 3:06 pm
its ok to be racist just own up to it and dont #PUSSYFOOT
Daniel Novet
January 29, 2016 at 3:08 pm
You likely are racist as fuck, whether you like to admit it or not.
Jeffery McCarthy
January 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm
i mean its not “ok” but its a life choice to be ignorant, just as it a life choice to stand up against that shit at every turn. i mean i release some dark material but its not geared to incite hate in anyone in particular. White privilege in full effect here. it is serious and all my friends and aquiantices are that are not WHITE and are fans are not ebjoying this at all, how would you feel if a idol you look up to turns out to promote your extinction, not good. not funny, not in #2016. Keep it brutal, hate everyone.
Rafiq Abu Arz
January 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm
“if so, I am the most racist motherfucker out there” – sounds about right.
Carlo Finlinson
January 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm
Justin, skinheads have nothing to do with racism. Boneheads are racist,not skinheads😉
Jean Michél Chevrette-Aire
January 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm
… Says the guy with the Black Sun profile pic. Seems you are speakin the truth man about being a racist motherfucker, but i also think you have been one long before Phil raised his fat old arm (okay, i know he already did several times before, but you get my point anyway).
Eman Alliv
January 29, 2016 at 3:19 pm
Justin Wilson. Thats not skinhead symbolism thats neo nazi bullshit. Dont get skinheads & neo nazis mixed up.
Martin Remann
January 29, 2016 at 3:24 pm
Carlo Finlinson thank you – on point.
Jonas Åhlén
January 29, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Maybe not a Racist, but a Nazi for shure!
Helene Guilleminot
January 29, 2016 at 4:24 pm
I do not have the privilege to laugh with you, Billy, because I’m not enough white to ignore the racism in a joke.
Jay Peterman
January 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm
Eh, this cunts gunna get his someday. And I hope all those ‘punchlines’ were worth it little man.
What a fuckin peanut.
Morgan Runice
January 29, 2016 at 7:59 pm
It’s just a prank bro just a prank bro
Please.
Kyndelw Stiùbhard
January 29, 2016 at 3:00 pm
Yeah man, tolerance and universal brotherhood are so edgy.
Nurserycore as FUCK.
Nnamdi Bawsism
January 29, 2016 at 3:02 pm
“tolerance and universal brotherhood are so edgy”
I mean, they kinda are? People have been bigots since the beginning of time. Nothing “edgy” about that.
Damian N. McQuade
January 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm
go back to your safe-space, Nnamdi
Nnamdi Bawsism
January 29, 2016 at 3:11 pm
Been listening to metal for most of my life, Damien. I don’t need a safe space and I don’t need to be coddled. That won’t stop me from saying that corny nonsense is corny. Not sorry.
Chris Diasinos
January 29, 2016 at 3:19 pm
Tolerance is not edgy because of historical context. If you’re living in any western nation it is quite literally the establishments social demand, there is nothing remotely rebellious about it.
Brian O'Blivion
January 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm
keep telling yourself that
Euan James McKenzie
January 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
Tolerance is not the establishments social demand. If it were the elite wouldn’t be able to play “divide and rule”, something that racism is a major factor in.
Tjalling Jn
January 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm
Intolerance makes you a cool fuccboi, I reckon. Battlejacket, Mountain Dew and Intolerance. The tenets of tr00 metaldom.
Chris Diasinos
January 29, 2016 at 7:38 pm
You act like the organic inevitabilities of multiculturalism had to be manufactured, as if throughout all history, division was only ever caused by dictated blind intolerance. The elite…jesus wept.
Look, I don’t support this particular action but you’ve got no chance if you’re trying to tell me it’s more acceptable to be racist, that division is publicised more than tolerance and understanding, that altruism doesn’t permeate the very core of modern western establishments. If you truly believe that then we’re wasting our time here.
Josh Williamson
January 29, 2016 at 3:00 pm
Wow people say that?
Willy Dewberry
January 29, 2016 at 3:00 pm
He’s an idiot
Peter Peterson
January 30, 2016 at 2:53 pm
it is only when we become one with ourselves do we know true idiocy
Mike Dee
January 29, 2016 at 2:59 pm
Indeed.